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  • A [email protected]

    Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

    • a tool for backing up offline installers
    • ability to install previous versions of a game
    • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
    • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

    And others that I can't remember.

    mikelius@lemmy.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #77

    I was seriously just finally starting to become interested in using them a lot more for gaming since I got some success getting it to work on my Linux install. This would make me do a full 180 though...

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    • A [email protected]

      Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

      • a tool for backing up offline installers
      • ability to install previous versions of a game
      • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
      • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

      And others that I can't remember.

      mitm0@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #78

      Bad move GOG, you're as of right now still inferior to steam & you want to enshitify your platform ?

      1. Port your Gog-Galaxy launcher to Linux (it has to be native)
      2. fund Wine
      3. Accomodate for more local payment systems
      4. Have more currencies
      5. Would be nice if you made your launchers (or at least the core-functionalities OpenSource)
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      • A [email protected]

        I got the impression they're aiming more for a "fan club" kind of thing where you get access to articles/videos/Q&A/voting rights, etc. So more a kind of Patreon like many creators have. I didn't get the impression that this would in any way change the business model of the store.

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        #79

        If that's the case, I may be interested. I'd still like Galaxy on Linux before I give them additional money.

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        • A [email protected]

          Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

          • a tool for backing up offline installers
          • ability to install previous versions of a game
          • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
          • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

          And others that I can't remember.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #80

          Wait so currently you can't install previous versions of games you only get the most up-to-date version. That's daft to expect people to pay for, that's a free feature on Steam.

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          • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

            here's the survey if anyone wants to answer: https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/MURG4B

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            #81

            I did it. I made sure to beg them for Galaxy on Linux.

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              Wait so currently you can't install previous versions of games you only get the most up-to-date version. That's daft to expect people to pay for, that's a free feature on Steam.

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              #82

              I honestly thought this was an option, but I can't see it in the client, and the offline installers only offer all patches and the latest version. Not the original version.

              I agree that's daft, and hope that feature doesn't get paywalled. The more people who do the survey and stress these points, the better.

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              • A [email protected]

                Yeah, I found that one weird as well. Lego Island wasn't just the first Lego game. It was one of the first open world games. Well worth preserving. Much more so than the Lego games that got added.

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                #83

                I think LEGO Island would be hard to license because Mindscape is long gone. Also the source code was lost as I recall. MattKC on YouTube has created lots of patches to get the game running on modern systems. He's working on decompiling it actually.

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                  Wait so currently you can't install previous versions of games you only get the most up-to-date version. That's daft to expect people to pay for, that's a free feature on Steam.

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                  #84

                  That's not an official/proper feature on steam, there's nothing in the interface to select an older version, right? Just the beta system that lets developers have multiple branches available, which is often used to keep a limited number of previous versions available.

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                  • A [email protected]

                    Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                    • a tool for backing up offline installers
                    • ability to install previous versions of a game
                    • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                    • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                    And others that I can't remember.

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                    #85

                    The things I would be ok paying a subscription for:

                    • Rotating free Games that I get to keep. Like epic but only for subscribers. The game should be mine even after I quit the subscription.
                    • Extra insights in preservation, or goodies
                    • voting rights on what games should be free next month for the sunscribers.
                    • discounted price on games.

                    Things that I feel it shouldnot be locked behind subscription and paywall:

                    • tool for backing up offline installers
                    • ability to install previous versions of game
                    • and definitely not voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                    If the tooks for backing up offline installers or ability to install previous versions of game are paywalled, that is going to invite more reasons for piracy.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      Anything but properly supporting the Linux community 🤡

                      How have they still not learned that the largest intersection of the people that care about their core value proposition (game preservation, DRM-free, etc.) are Linux users?? It's not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

                      If they provided a launcher for Linux users, I'd actually buy shit from them. Yes, Heroic Launcher exists, but I'm not paying GOG for the work that the Heroic dev did. I want first-party support.

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                      #86

                      It's not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

                      I do just want to point out, Valve didn't do that - Proton is mostly just pre-existing software that they packaged together into an officially supported feature. I love that they did it, and having it in the biggest PC game platform presumably did wonders for Linux gaming, but it was most certainly not made from scratch.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                        • a tool for backing up offline installers
                        • ability to install previous versions of a game
                        • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                        • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                        And others that I can't remember.

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                        #87

                        I think if they need an extra income stream, it should be physical manuals, discs/disks, boxes, and feelies. Say that GOG has System Shock, Ultima VII, Thief Gold, and TIE Fighter planned for a limited edition boxed edition, but needs pre-orders. Plonk down $20-40, get those things when the funding goal is reached.

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                        • A [email protected]

                          Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                          • a tool for backing up offline installers
                          • ability to install previous versions of a game
                          • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                          • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                          And others that I can't remember.

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                          #88

                          The only thing that I could think of that would make paying worth anything would be if they had GOG servers for online play from games that their servers shut down. Aka GOG's KALI

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                          • A [email protected]

                            Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                            • a tool for backing up offline installers
                            • ability to install previous versions of a game
                            • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                            • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                            And others that I can't remember.

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                            #89

                            Hahahaha. After cyberpunk was shit and still now Linux support?! Yeah fuck them. If I need DRM free games I'll pirate. They're just a leech

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                            • A [email protected]

                              Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                              • a tool for backing up offline installers
                              • ability to install previous versions of a game
                              • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                              • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                              And others that I can't remember.

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                              How about instead of this subscription talk, GOG could:

                              -Remake GOG Galaxy. The client is slow with tons of bloat. Focus on your store, and make a native Linux client.
                              -Help fund Wine. I find it weird that the main non-DRM store is so againat Linux. I know people that would leave Steam If GOG came to Linux.
                              -Different version and a tool to backup games should be part of the new launcher and not part of a subscription. You guys talk about game preservations and then try to put parts of it behind a paywall.....
                              -A more realistic Dreamlist. Who had the idea of letting people submit any game they want? Dreamlist would work better if GOG choose a list of games and the community voted for what game for GOG to focus on. People really think that games that were console exclusive or old FIFA/NBA/Gran Turismo games will come to GOG.
                              -There are some games on GOG that don't work, FIX THEM! (Looking at you Kane and Lynch)

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                                Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                                • a tool for backing up offline installers
                                • ability to install previous versions of a game
                                • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                                • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                                And others that I can't remember.

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                                #91

                                I really hate most subscriptions, because the prises are often too high, they rely on locking stuff behind paywalls, instead of providing a good service.

                                Here is the difference, I am ok paying monthly for storage space, servers, and hosted/managed open source web services, because there is competition and standard interfaces there. They do not hold you hostage to their service, what they provide is good on its own.

                                I GOG invests money into writing open source libraries, apps and APIs to efficiently and easily share save games between devices. Let people self host the open source backend, but offer up a subscription for a managed instance, with maybe some voting rights for new features to be integrated into the open source backend, then I would be willing to support this.

                                And other stuff like this.

                                Use subscriptions to offer good services, which also allow you to improve the whole ecosystem, while also not putting yourself as the gatekeeper, and locking people into their service.

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                                • daggermoon@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                  I think LEGO Island would be hard to license because Mindscape is long gone. Also the source code was lost as I recall. MattKC on YouTube has created lots of patches to get the game running on modern systems. He's working on decompiling it actually.

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                                  Yeah, I'm actually a member of his channel on YouTube.

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                                  • K [email protected]

                                    It's not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

                                    I do just want to point out, Valve didn't do that - Proton is mostly just pre-existing software that they packaged together into an officially supported feature. I love that they did it, and having it in the biggest PC game platform presumably did wonders for Linux gaming, but it was most certainly not made from scratch.

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                                    I agree with you for the most part, but valve also is funding the developers behind the most important things out of proton. DXVK and vkd3d-proton were almost non-existent before Valve employed them.

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                                      Wait so currently you can't install previous versions of games you only get the most up-to-date version. That's daft to expect people to pay for, that's a free feature on Steam.

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                                      That is absolutely not a free feature on Steam. Some publishers like Paradox leave old versions as 'beta' branches to allow us to reinstall them, but Steam as a whole is very against you playing anything but the latest version.

                                      You cannot instruct Steam to not update a game. When you launch a game, Steam will update regardless, unless you have gone offline, or you launch it in a way that bypasses the Steam client. If you ever forget to go offline before launching a game, Steam will forcibly update it

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                                        That's not an official/proper feature on steam, there's nothing in the interface to select an older version, right? Just the beta system that lets developers have multiple branches available, which is often used to keep a limited number of previous versions available.

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                                        I thought it was a command that you could launch steam with that would give you access to older versions. I'm sure I have done that when trying to mod GTA and it needed a particular version.

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                                          Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                                          • a tool for backing up offline installers
                                          • ability to install previous versions of a game
                                          • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                                          • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                                          And others that I can't remember.

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                                          Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying, where is that financially a viable option to cater to the tiniest percentage of gamers for gog? I know ill get downvoted but im tired of the fanatical linux posts on lemmy at this point. Get with reality they are going to work on the client where the money is most predominantly flowing from and its not linux or mac. Haters gonna hate the truth but its the truth from a business standpoint.

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