Kid gave a reasonable answer without all the math bullshit
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The writing looks like first or second grade. Where do they teach fractions in that grade?
Boys in particular, (though girls are not exempt from poor handwriting), will have "poor" penmanship pretty much all through elementary school and even into Jr High. And fractions are generally introduced at the end of the 3rd grade school year. And based on the question, that's the likely grade level that test was created for.
I would bet that most of the students in that class got the answer correct because they were coached to read the question correctly-- to look for the fractions and simply compare them. And anyone else that didn't, simply chose the wrong answer. Still, you will get a surprise answer like that every once in a while because kids are cool like that. It's worth a chuckle as you move on.
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Because these "teacher is dumber than a child" pictures are always fake. I've never seen a teacher write corrections on a student's paper. Are they doing that for every wrong question on every paper? That would take forever!
Are they doing that for every wrong question on every paper? That would take forever!
I work in education in Texas. Yes, they do. And yes, it does. Now, most things are digital, so they have kids make a copy of the Google Doc and then grade that and leave comments on it. But if they have paper assignments, they often leave notes on them. Leaving notes on assignments and tests/quizzes (which is likely what this was) is part of their professional review.
Also, part of their regular professional review is whether or not they're keeping proper documentation on student behavior. Different tiers of behavioral issues require different documentation/communication. So, not only are they writing notes on tests/assignments, they're writing documentation on hundreds of students, contacting dozens of parents, creating lesson plans that have to be available in advance for parental review in case any parents want to dispute the materials, and they're getting regular reviews.
And then, when all the kids are off enjoying summer, the teachers are working their summer job to supplement their shitty pay. And they're going to mandatory "Professional Learning" courses to keep their teaching certification, some of which they are required to pay from their own pocket to attend.
In San Antonio, we don't really have any "small" districts, so the numbers in the second paragraph assumes an elementary school of 300-600, middle school of 800-1200, or high school of 1200-2000 students.
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That looks like my writing now, and I’m in my 30s.
As a very old lefty, I wish my handwriting looked that good.
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Some people become teachers because they love to educate children.
Some people become teachers because they have no control in their life and want to be the boss if something.
I see you've met some of my old coworkers.
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We can understand the context of the curriculum goals and still realize that the question was asinine and the teacher is a dipshit.
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Take that to the principal, stupid teachers shouldn't teach
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The principal is not necessarily any smarter than the teachers. Often it's the opposite.
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I guess your math teacher failed you too.
No, they're correct. You just fail logic so hard that you think math can erase a lie...
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I know this is bait but who said they had the same-sized pizzas?
That's a base assumption when you compare fractions in these word problems.
Assumptions make an ass out of you but not me
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it's fairly clear there are two pizzas, but as to 'how' someone eats more than someone else... this is not really a simple math question, there are too many unknown variables. Maybe one has Bulemia, maybe one of them is 6'9" and has a much bigger appetite. Maybe one of the people has a congenital deformity resulting in two mouths... This question is not a math question, it's an exercise in creativity.
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No, they're correct. You just fail logic so hard that you think math can erase a lie...
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I've never seen so many people who are proud that they don't understand an elementary-school level math, this is hilarious.
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it's fairly clear there are two pizzas, but as to 'how' someone eats more than someone else... this is not really a simple math question, there are too many unknown variables. Maybe one has Bulemia, maybe one of them is 6'9" and has a much bigger appetite. Maybe one of the people has a congenital deformity resulting in two mouths... This question is not a math question, it's an exercise in creativity.
Even if it is purely a math question though, it never specifies "Their pizzas are the same size." The student literally answered how this is possible in a reasonable way that satisfies the mathematical requirements, when the teacher is expecting an impossible answer of "it's not" after saying in this scenario that Marty did in fact eat more.
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If you state that Marty ate more as part of the question, you cannot answer in any other way, because it denies mathematical logic here. You introduced a lie as part of the problem, and if I need to decide myself which part of the statement is a lie, I can pick whatever I want, let's say, Marty didn't ate 4/6, but 6/6. This teacher should be taken to the gulag.
You miss the understanding that the kids would have been coached everyday for at least a week to look for the fractions and compare them. And not be overly concerned with anything else. The kids aren't stupid, they know that they have spent the week comparing fractions and that's what the test/quiz would cover. I would bet very long money that the majority of the students got the correct answer and those that didn't, simply chose the wrong answer. Still, you do get an oddball answer on occasion. Because young kids are cool like that sometimes. It's a minor thing to correct as a teacher.
As an adult, you are reading far too much into the question because you want to be angry.
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Even if it is purely a math question though, it never specifies "Their pizzas are the same size." The student literally answered how this is possible in a reasonable way that satisfies the mathematical requirements, when the teacher is expecting an impossible answer of "it's not" after saying in this scenario that Marty did in fact eat more.
Yeah, if the question was "Is this possible?" then the teacher's answer would be reasonable.
But the "how" in the question implicates that it's actually factual and the student should come of with an explanation how. Which they did perfectly.
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I always knew someone else knew about the series!
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Asterix was pretty popular in the 90s Central Europe. The movies were in theaters, the older ones got prime time slots on TV, the comics were in every book store's kids section. I remember laughing my ass off in the movie theater at the scene with the bear when Asterix in America came out.
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You miss the understanding that the kids would have been coached everyday for at least a week to look for the fractions and compare them. And not be overly concerned with anything else. The kids aren't stupid, they know that they have spent the week comparing fractions and that's what the test/quiz would cover. I would bet very long money that the majority of the students got the correct answer and those that didn't, simply chose the wrong answer. Still, you do get an oddball answer on occasion. Because young kids are cool like that sometimes. It's a minor thing to correct as a teacher.
As an adult, you are reading far too much into the question because you want to be angry.
That's not what it is, no.
Teachers make mistakes, like any human being, and a good teacher can deal with the fact that they made a mistake and that a student found said mistake.
A teacher who insists on being right over being correct is a bad teacher, because a teacher is supposed to teach a child understanding and knowledge, not blind obedience above anything else.
That's how you end up with a population who agree with the leader even if he tells them the sky is green.
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If you state that Marty ate more as part of the question, you cannot answer in any other way, because it denies mathematical logic here. You introduced a lie as part of the problem, and if I need to decide myself which part of the statement is a lie, I can pick whatever I want, let's say, Marty didn't ate 4/6, but 6/6. This teacher should be taken to the gulag.
You introduced a lie as part of the problem
There is no lie or contradiction in the problem, what are you smoking? The kid's answer is exactly correct.
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You introduced a lie as part of the problem
There is no lie or contradiction in the problem, what are you smoking? The kid's answer is exactly correct.
They're not on about the kids answer. They're talking about the teacher saying Luis ate more. How? It literally says in the question Marty ate more.
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Yeah, if the question was "Is this possible?" then the teacher's answer would be reasonable.
But the "how" in the question implicates that it's actually factual and the student should come of with an explanation how. Which they did perfectly.
Both of your questions would be satisfied by the student's answer though
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This brings back memories of when I realized that I was smarter than most of my teachers.
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When I was in elementary, my teacher said that "Lutetia" was how the Romans called the city of Liege. As an avid reader of Asterix comics, I knew this isn't true and corrected her and said it was the Roman name of Paris. She insisted that it is Liege. Anyway, the next day, she came back to class and said that she looked it up and that I was indeed correct and Lutetia referred to Paris and gave me a chocolate bar and told me to keep reading comics. Good teacher.
In my country, the written final exams include a Q&A section in the beginning of the test, where the teacher and the headmaster are present, and where they present the tasks and students are allowed to ask questions. After that section, the headmaster leaves and students and teachers aren't allowed to talk for the rest of the test.
I noticed a missing specification in one of the tasks. It was a 3D geometry task, and it was missing one angle, thus allowing for infinite correct results. During the Q&A section I asked about that, and my teacher looked sternly past me to the end of the room and said "I am sure the specifications are correct". If there was an actual error in the specifications, the whole test would have been voided and would have to be repeated at a later date, for all the students attending.
As soon as the headmaster was out of the room, he came to me and asked where he made the mistake. He then wrote a fitting spec on the whiteboard.
I liked that guy. He was a good teacher.
