Kid gave a reasonable answer without all the math bullshit
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No, they're correct. You just fail logic so hard that you think math can erase a lie...
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I've never seen so many people who are proud that they don't understand an elementary-school level math, this is hilarious.
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it's fairly clear there are two pizzas, but as to 'how' someone eats more than someone else... this is not really a simple math question, there are too many unknown variables. Maybe one has Bulemia, maybe one of them is 6'9" and has a much bigger appetite. Maybe one of the people has a congenital deformity resulting in two mouths... This question is not a math question, it's an exercise in creativity.
Even if it is purely a math question though, it never specifies "Their pizzas are the same size." The student literally answered how this is possible in a reasonable way that satisfies the mathematical requirements, when the teacher is expecting an impossible answer of "it's not" after saying in this scenario that Marty did in fact eat more.
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If you state that Marty ate more as part of the question, you cannot answer in any other way, because it denies mathematical logic here. You introduced a lie as part of the problem, and if I need to decide myself which part of the statement is a lie, I can pick whatever I want, let's say, Marty didn't ate 4/6, but 6/6. This teacher should be taken to the gulag.
You miss the understanding that the kids would have been coached everyday for at least a week to look for the fractions and compare them. And not be overly concerned with anything else. The kids aren't stupid, they know that they have spent the week comparing fractions and that's what the test/quiz would cover. I would bet very long money that the majority of the students got the correct answer and those that didn't, simply chose the wrong answer. Still, you do get an oddball answer on occasion. Because young kids are cool like that sometimes. It's a minor thing to correct as a teacher.
As an adult, you are reading far too much into the question because you want to be angry.
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Even if it is purely a math question though, it never specifies "Their pizzas are the same size." The student literally answered how this is possible in a reasonable way that satisfies the mathematical requirements, when the teacher is expecting an impossible answer of "it's not" after saying in this scenario that Marty did in fact eat more.
Yeah, if the question was "Is this possible?" then the teacher's answer would be reasonable.
But the "how" in the question implicates that it's actually factual and the student should come of with an explanation how. Which they did perfectly.
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I always knew someone else knew about the series!
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Asterix was pretty popular in the 90s Central Europe. The movies were in theaters, the older ones got prime time slots on TV, the comics were in every book store's kids section. I remember laughing my ass off in the movie theater at the scene with the bear when Asterix in America came out.
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You miss the understanding that the kids would have been coached everyday for at least a week to look for the fractions and compare them. And not be overly concerned with anything else. The kids aren't stupid, they know that they have spent the week comparing fractions and that's what the test/quiz would cover. I would bet very long money that the majority of the students got the correct answer and those that didn't, simply chose the wrong answer. Still, you do get an oddball answer on occasion. Because young kids are cool like that sometimes. It's a minor thing to correct as a teacher.
As an adult, you are reading far too much into the question because you want to be angry.
That's not what it is, no.
Teachers make mistakes, like any human being, and a good teacher can deal with the fact that they made a mistake and that a student found said mistake.
A teacher who insists on being right over being correct is a bad teacher, because a teacher is supposed to teach a child understanding and knowledge, not blind obedience above anything else.
That's how you end up with a population who agree with the leader even if he tells them the sky is green.
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If you state that Marty ate more as part of the question, you cannot answer in any other way, because it denies mathematical logic here. You introduced a lie as part of the problem, and if I need to decide myself which part of the statement is a lie, I can pick whatever I want, let's say, Marty didn't ate 4/6, but 6/6. This teacher should be taken to the gulag.
You introduced a lie as part of the problem
There is no lie or contradiction in the problem, what are you smoking? The kid's answer is exactly correct.
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You introduced a lie as part of the problem
There is no lie or contradiction in the problem, what are you smoking? The kid's answer is exactly correct.
They're not on about the kids answer. They're talking about the teacher saying Luis ate more. How? It literally says in the question Marty ate more.
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Yeah, if the question was "Is this possible?" then the teacher's answer would be reasonable.
But the "how" in the question implicates that it's actually factual and the student should come of with an explanation how. Which they did perfectly.
Both of your questions would be satisfied by the student's answer though
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This brings back memories of when I realized that I was smarter than most of my teachers.
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When I was in elementary, my teacher said that "Lutetia" was how the Romans called the city of Liege. As an avid reader of Asterix comics, I knew this isn't true and corrected her and said it was the Roman name of Paris. She insisted that it is Liege. Anyway, the next day, she came back to class and said that she looked it up and that I was indeed correct and Lutetia referred to Paris and gave me a chocolate bar and told me to keep reading comics. Good teacher.
In my country, the written final exams include a Q&A section in the beginning of the test, where the teacher and the headmaster are present, and where they present the tasks and students are allowed to ask questions. After that section, the headmaster leaves and students and teachers aren't allowed to talk for the rest of the test.
I noticed a missing specification in one of the tasks. It was a 3D geometry task, and it was missing one angle, thus allowing for infinite correct results. During the Q&A section I asked about that, and my teacher looked sternly past me to the end of the room and said "I am sure the specifications are correct". If there was an actual error in the specifications, the whole test would have been voided and would have to be repeated at a later date, for all the students attending.
As soon as the headmaster was out of the room, he came to me and asked where he made the mistake. He then wrote a fitting spec on the whiteboard.
I liked that guy. He was a good teacher.
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If you state that Marty ate more as part of the question, you cannot answer in any other way, because it denies mathematical logic here. You introduced a lie as part of the problem, and if I need to decide myself which part of the statement is a lie, I can pick whatever I want, let's say, Marty didn't ate 4/6, but 6/6. This teacher should be taken to the gulag.
Pretty sure its a joke and not a real exam.
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Both of your questions would be satisfied by the student's answer though
True, even with the "Is this possible?" the student's answer should have been ok. But with the "how" the teacher's answer is plainly wrong.
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I always knew someone else knew about the series!
What do you mean someone else? Who doesnt?
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That's not what it is, no.
Teachers make mistakes, like any human being, and a good teacher can deal with the fact that they made a mistake and that a student found said mistake.
A teacher who insists on being right over being correct is a bad teacher, because a teacher is supposed to teach a child understanding and knowledge, not blind obedience above anything else.
That's how you end up with a population who agree with the leader even if he tells them the sky is green.
That’s how you end up with a population who agree with the leader even if he tells them the sky is green.
Or you are in Japan, maybe even North Korea.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue–green_distinction_in_language
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Math education in the empire is TERRIBLE. There is no actual math taught. At best it's applied analogies like this pizza BS. The teachers have never taken any advanced math so they don't even know what they're not teaching. The goals (eg. calculus) are completely worthless. The entire system is stuck in the 1700s. It's a complete failure. It's intentional too. The goal is creating obedient, little computers not critical thinkers. That would be a threat to the system. This image is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.
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In elementary school our teacher asked us to spell the current year with roman numerals, so I worked out "MCMXCVIII", which I was quite proud of. But the teacher came back at me quite snarkyly and said it's much easier to just substract 2 from 2000, "IIMM" duh!
It was only many years later that I accidently learned that he was indeed full of shit and I was right all along.
It would've been easier to pretend it was 2000 and just write MM
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it's fairly clear there are two pizzas, but as to 'how' someone eats more than someone else... this is not really a simple math question, there are too many unknown variables. Maybe one has Bulemia, maybe one of them is 6'9" and has a much bigger appetite. Maybe one of the people has a congenital deformity resulting in two mouths... This question is not a math question, it's an exercise in creativity.
How did they eat it?
They put it in their mouth, probably chewed a few times, swallowed, and then repeated the process as needed.
Q.E.D.
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Math education in the empire is TERRIBLE. There is no actual math taught. At best it's applied analogies like this pizza BS. The teachers have never taken any advanced math so they don't even know what they're not teaching. The goals (eg. calculus) are completely worthless. The entire system is stuck in the 1700s. It's a complete failure. It's intentional too. The goal is creating obedient, little computers not critical thinkers. That would be a threat to the system. This image is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You might afford too much malice to something that might be just a generational incompetence and total lack of care. Smart kids don't increase this quarter's profits, therefore are irrelevant.
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Pretty sure its a joke and not a real exam.
"Reasonableness" as the heading implies that they've been working on whether a word problem makes any sense at all. It's, perhaps ironically, an attempt to help them build critical thinking skills. Then, elementary school teachers are not all brilliant minds themselves, and even the ones who are incredibly gifted educators are overworked, and their schools are generally underfunded. You get a cheap resource, maybe even a free one, or one your former mentor threw together late one night three years ago, and you can end up with a sloppy question. If you yourself are having a bad moment, or are not particularly talented, or the kid is a known shitass, then yeah, you could overreact and respond like this.
Having just sat with my kid through a year of 5th grade math homework, it is completely plausible that this is a real quiz and a real response. Some of the question writing even in the professionally made materials is just not good, partly because it presumes a laser focus on a single "instructional variable," despite mandates to teach holistically.
