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What's one thing your learned at college/university that blew your mind?

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    Which actually makes sense if you understand it's not the wind pushing but the generated updraft at the sail.

    (also not point at, but sideways)

    😁

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    Even if you are sailing directly downwind, it works. That was actually the professor's demonstration. He said that at the time it was accepted as a physical phenomenon, there were many physicists who said it wasn't possible, but it was being actively used by some engineers to make jets go in reverse.

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      locality. what was it supposed to be? and why doesn't it actually exist? what model "replaces" it, if any?

      maybe the meaning of spacetime isn't obvious either, and I just misunderstand what it means

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      locality wikipedia page

      In short locality states that things are only directly affected by their immediate surroundings. This is provably untrue in quantum mechanics.

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        It has been proven that each mathematical reasoning system* either has a statement that cannot be proven true or false, or a statement that can be proven both true or false. In simpler terms, it has been proven that we can't prove everything.

        Gƶdels incompleteness theorem if anyone wants to look it up.

        • only holds for reasoning systems that can reason about numbers
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          A lot of the official liberal arts college education goes into understanding the perspectives of others, with a bias to people in power and their power structures. While not an explicit thing they are teaching you, college is teaching you how to understand power structures and the people within them.

          If you have a better understanding of power structures, it becomes easier to push said structures to achieve your own goals since you can speak to power structures in their language instead of your own in order to get what you want.

          Also, a lot of the clubs and other extra-curricular activities are designed to create small power bases to practice these techniques on.

          It is a lot easier to get what you want when you can speak on other people's terms.

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          Where can I learn more about this? Recommend any books or any techniques? I'd love to learn more about power structures, and people in power.

          In workplaces, I've seen people put themselves into positions of power, get roles their not qualified for, and influence managers to dislike people. Office politics.

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            Wait, what's the other option for past tense 'to prove'?

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            OP has just proven their point.

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              It’s also interesting how the past-tense of ā€œto diveā€ has changed over recent generations. ā€œDivedā€ is supposed to be standard, yet people turn it into ā€œdoveā€ so frequently, it’s becoming the new normal.

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              I resist because I'm literate enough to know that "dove" is a bird that rhymes with "love".

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                Higher education is a waste of money for the vast majority of degrees, even STEM ones.

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                  For real? A lot of high school subjects were pre requisites for enrolling in my degree here and it'd be quite tough to get through the degree without the foundation laid in those subjects. At the very least they'd have to extend the university course by probably a year or so.

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                  Probably varies largely on where you're talking about, and even then, which university program you're looking at enrolling in. If you go and look at universities in the UK, for example, a BA studying a foreign language generally seems to assume that this is a language you've already been studying for several years in secondary education. You're meant to be entering the program with roughly a B1 level in the language, and allegedly develop up to C1 over the course of 3 years of study. Meanwhile, in the US, you can rock up to a university and be a Japanese language major with nothing more than "Well, he says he likes anime and his grades are okay." and the degree program will start you off in a 100-level class that expects negligible prior knowledge, if any.

                  Then again, having attempted university in the US, and now doing it at a UK school, university education is pretty drastically different. The US schools take 4 years to grant the same degree, and you spend almost the whole of the first year and a good chunk of the second just doing general education requirements that are, at best, only tangentially relevant to your chosen field of study. If I were doing my current degree program for a BA in French and Spanish as a first time student in the US, unless I did a bunch of AP courses or took night classes at a community college on the side, I'd need to do a general English composition class, a few math classes, probably get to pick between a biology or chemistry course, something to do with world cultures or music and the arts, and a handful of other electives I'm forgetting about. For that degree in the UK, from start to finish over the course of 3 years, I exactly 2 modules that aren't either French or Spanish, with one being the "Hey, we need to make sure you can actually write in English competently, too" module, and the other being a free choice of an introductory language module for something else.

                  I'd also assume the US' lack of a national curriculum also plays into how things work out with universities here, as well. Since things can be so variable at a regional and local level, not only in terms of the established curriculum, but what courses your particular secondary school has the funding to offer, universities can't really assume much of incoming students' education. You can have a kid from one state whose school was a Spanish language immersion school offering bilingual education from day 1 of Kindergarten, and later offering French, German, Japanese and Arabic as a third language for the final 4 years of compulsory education sat side-by-side with another from a different part of the country who only had the chance to take 2 years of Spanish classes. Even for subjects with a better baseline, someone whose studies covered all the available math classes up to geometry and algebra is going to have a totally different starting point from another whose school partnered with a local college to offer college level courses in calculus and statistics in high school.

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                    What does that mean?

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                    You know how you get COVID from being in the same room as someone who sneezes on you or something? It's that.

                    Non locality is when you get COVID from someone the next state over.

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                      I learned women actually don't have the same access to higher education as men.

                      You're right - women have significantly better access to higher education than men, and have demonstrably better education outcomes as a result.

                      For example, women are significantly more likely to receive scholarships and grants than men in undergrad.

                      Partially as a result of this lack of access, men have dropped to almost 40% of undergrad students, while women make up nearly 60%. Women also receive more doctorates than men, and almost twice as many Master's degrees as men.

                      I'm not trying to minimize the bigotry that you observed (or faced), but it's objectively false to claim that women have worse access to higher education than men.

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                      OP didn't indicate their gender.

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                        OP didn't indicate their gender.

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                        Thanks, good point. I've edited my comment.

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                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_personal_is_political

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                          she was an older teacher, so makes sense it was the ideal she grew up with

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                            That although there are many wonderful professors, the average professor does not know their ass from a hole in the ground.

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                            But almost all professors know an incredible amount about some ass and/or some hole, just not the specific ass and hole that it would be practical to know about.

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                              High School is just busy work to keep you off the streets until you're ready for a job or college.

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                              Honestly a lot of work is just busy work to keep people off the streets.

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                                How low the expectations are for a putatively ā€œadultā€ level of education

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                                  That I spent years developing proficiency in my language and expanding my vocabulary to get accepted, only to be told to write simplified English in journalism school. Then they doubled down in my business classes to write for a 6th grade education and those who don't speak natively.

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                                  Ya I was surprised that that became the style they liked in my university history classes. None of that rhetoric bullshit.

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                                    You can tell from my transcript the exact week Elder Scrolls Oblivion came out.

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                                    For me it was might and magic III, yes I'm very old...

                                    My roommate, RA for the dorm, and I played for 3 months straight on my computer. It was never turned off 24/7 ....

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                                      Even if you are sailing directly downwind, it works. That was actually the professor's demonstration. He said that at the time it was accepted as a physical phenomenon, there were many physicists who said it wasn't possible, but it was being actively used by some engineers to make jets go in reverse.

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                                      Cool stuff!

                                      (I am not in aerospace or sailing, so I was guesstimating)

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                                        Higher education is a waste of money for the vast majority of degrees, even STEM ones.

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                                        Let me guess, you went to uni in the U.S.A.?

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                                          Just how greedy some professors can be.

                                          Like the one that had a publishing deal with Pearson. He wrote his own textbook, charged $700 for it, then made you remove parts from the book so it made used copies of the book worthless.

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