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Without mentioning smartphones or social media, what societal changes have you noticed over the course of your lifetime?

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    From an American perspective, flying on an airplane sucks. 9/11/01 resulted in a whole bunch of security theatre at the airport and airlines have slowly whittled away whatever comfort or convience remained.

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    You used to get proper meals even if it was a crazy short flight. Now it's like $6 bag of cheese it.

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      Appointment television?

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      A very popular show that everyone would watch live as it aired the first time. Then you could talk about it with everyone for a week because everyone is on the same episode. There was little to no ways to watch it if you missed it and you'd basically be screwed.

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        When I was still a kid, we went from bring a plate of cookies to your neighbor and introduce yourself to DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS!!

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          Cable TV use to be something that teathered us all together in a way. We were all stuck on the same schedule for premiers of new episodes of different shows so we all had a common thing to talk about come the next day. Now I have no idea what’s playing on what service and have just given up on staying up to date on the new shows. I could have access to $TVShow but probably won’t watch it because I don’t like to binge watch so it takes me longer to catch up and by the time I do it has already left the minds of my peers so why bother.

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          I could have access to $TVShow but probably won’t watch it because I don’t like to binge watch so it takes me longer to catch up and by the time I do it has already left the minds of my peers so why bother.

          I enjoy not having my entertainment options constrained by whether other people are watching them at the same time, so I'm loving the change. Especially since I didn't like over half of the shows that 'everybody' watched.

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            A very popular show that everyone would watch live as it aired the first time. Then you could talk about it with everyone for a week because everyone is on the same episode. There was little to no ways to watch it if you missed it and you'd basically be screwed.

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            Oh I wasn’t allowed to watch tele growing up. No wonder I have no idea what this is

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              When I was in high school, gay was the generic negative word. If Wendys gave you a medium fry when you ordered a large - gay. If your homie cancelled plans last minute - gay. If you slipped on the stairs and busted your ass - gay. It's bizarre in hindsight.

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              Kids are still mean, they just use different words now

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              • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                The cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty by a jury, in the first trial. After all, they’re the cops, they’re allowed. [snip] The cops would beat the fuck out of people and it was fine.

                This hasn't really changed though.

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                It absolutely has. Before Rodney King it was always fine. From 1992 to about 2014 it was mostly fine. From 2014-2020, it was a debate, and after 2020, they're pretty much always guilty. There's a whole interesting conversation to be had about why it was that all kinds of riot and peaceful protest had basically 0 result until 2014-2020, and then in 2020 it all of a sudden starting working significantly.

                Anyway, now under Trump, some of the reform is going backwards. There were some outlier departments that were still in the 1992 mode, and the feds were doing some things to try to come down on them, whereas now it's the opposite, Trump is actively pardoning dirty cops. Great stuff.

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                  The death of appointment television.

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                  haha my dad was a tech nerd and when he bought his first programmable VCR back in the '80s he was on top of the world. He was recording everything...

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                    The cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty by a jury, in the first trial. After all, they’re the cops, they’re allowed. [snip] The cops would beat the fuck out of people and it was fine.

                    This hasn't really changed though.

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                    but back then it was "fine" because it never made the news...

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                      Ahh yes, trade 6 hours for a 3 day, $400 train ride to NYC.

                      Lmfao what a shit suggestion

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                      With the current level of train infrastructure and service, I agree with you. That is why domestics flights are a thing. But trains would be a much better choice if rail wasn't actively defunded and sabotaged for the last 70 years or so.

                      Its this lack of imagination of what could be (and already exists around the world) that makes everyone laugh at Americans.

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                        I've been arrested, held up at gun point, and spent a few weeks in a Texas jail in the 90s because I like smoking weed. Now I have 3 weed stores within 2 miles of me, and it's as mundane as buying a loaf of bread. So that's a positive in my book.

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                        haha yeah I've been a pothead for 40-several years and I got my Florida MMU card last year. It took me a while to get past my "kid in a candy store" phase. Geez I wasn't used to having ANY choice, let alone that many choices 😆

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                          When I was in high school, gay was the generic negative word. If Wendys gave you a medium fry when you ordered a large - gay. If your homie cancelled plans last minute - gay. If you slipped on the stairs and busted your ass - gay. It's bizarre in hindsight.

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                          Same. "Gay Humor" was a thing when I was in middle-school/highschool, probably still a thing. If you act feminine as a guy, its "gay". If you act too emotional over a girl, it's "gay". If you answer a question wrong, your a [R-Slur]. Everyone who you had a slight beef with is being a "bitch", even the guys. Sometime the occational gay word equivalent that starts with "f".

                          Oh this is a blue city (in the US) btw. Circa 2015-2020

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                            Completely agree. The state of the US passenger train system is absolutely pitiful, and useless for any of the trips I needed to take.

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                            I would gladly take the Texas Eagle to Chicago on a regular basis to see family if it didn't cost $1,800 for a very small room in the sleeper car. I prefer the train to flying or driving. It's just a LOT cheaper to load up the minivan and drive 12 hours instead.

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                              • People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.
                              • Climate change is part of mainstream awareness, most people want to see action on it.
                              • Gays and lesbians are very broadly accepted in many parts of the world. Trans people are too (and they are more visible), even if there is also a culture war backlash.
                              • Nearly everyone hates capitalism. Not everyone has figured out what needs to be done about it, but it's a good start.
                              • Conspiracy thinking is more rampant, presumably because of internet (mis/dis)information bubbles

                              (I was born in the early 80s, so this is over the last 30ish years, since the mid 90s)

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                              People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.

                              People still don't understand.

                              "Just be happy" is still a thing.

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                                Nobody thinks my country has a history of way too many kidnappings, but America has the market cornered on propaganda.

                                I wanna say that mindset has no discernable effect on the number of crimes committed, at least when they reviewed the statistics years later. That's what I heard anyway.

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                                  Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                                  A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                                  Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                                  When I was a kid, it was assumed that boys asked girls to dances and not the other way around. In the recent Pixar series Dream Productions, a tween girl is asked who she's going to ask to the school dance. It's now treated as normal for girls to ask boys. She also ends up not going with a date and just going with her friends.

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                                    Nobody thinks my country has a history of way too many kidnappings, but America has the market cornered on propaganda.

                                    I wanna say that mindset has no discernable effect on the number of crimes committed, at least when they reviewed the statistics years later. That's what I heard anyway.

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                                      Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                                      A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                                      Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                                      Outside of formal settings, I'd say that it's uncommon for women to wear skirts or dresses in day-to-day life now.

                                      Menswear is considerably more casual. This is a trend that's been going for over a century or so, so it certainly didn't just happen during my life, but it did significantly change in that time.

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                                        With the current level of train infrastructure and service, I agree with you. That is why domestics flights are a thing. But trains would be a much better choice if rail wasn't actively defunded and sabotaged for the last 70 years or so.

                                        Its this lack of imagination of what could be (and already exists around the world) that makes everyone laugh at Americans.

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                                        Even with high speed rail you're looking at 30+ hours from Seattle to NYC. And that's optimistic, ignoring the numerous alpine mountains. No thanks.

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                                        • J [email protected]

                                          From an American perspective, flying on an airplane sucks. 9/11/01 resulted in a whole bunch of security theatre at the airport and airlines have slowly whittled away whatever comfort or convience remained.

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                                          Why specify the year? Everyone knows what 9/11 is, it's not going to get confused with another 9/11.

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