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Do you ever drink "strategically"?

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    Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

    It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

    Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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    Yes, I barely if ever drink alcohol. I'm not social and hate talking to people or crowds, I'm also pretty ND so I can't fake or pretend I give a shit about what other people are talking.

    Alcohol helps a lot, if I have to meet whoever and their friends and they're asking me about work or how I would design an app that does blah blah I definitely need to be like 4 beers in to tolerate that conversation.

    That being said I don't drink for things like school presentations or other events that require me to speak, like conference stuff. I just bite the bullet and it sucks, but I'd rather be sober and speaking coherently than feeling like I am.

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      Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

      It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

      Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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      I like to have a drink but hard NO to doing it before anything important. I strongly prefer to feel clear headed for those moments.

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        Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

        It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

        Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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        Uncomfortable? I'd prefer caffeine for that.

        Alcohol might compel me to say something I'd regret.

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          Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

          It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

          Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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          As a general policy I don't drink alcohol if I feel I need a drink.

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            Lots of people warning you about alcoholism. Idk. I drink coffee strategically every day, and that's a drug. But also yes, I sometimes drink alcohol strategically. If I know I'm going to hang out with my sister who I love but disagree with on many many things, i have a drink or two. I try to dull my brain just enough that I am too slow to get offended at every single thing (or just don't care to, maybe?) in the end, we have a great time, I don't get all debate-ey with her, and instead just appreciate the good things about her. We don't see each other that often so I genuinely don't see any danger from this coping mechanism.

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            A caffeine addiction and an alcohol addiction are two completely different beasts though.

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              I think they're just pointing out that using alcohol as coping mechanism can easily cause alcoholism, and therefore this post is really dangerous advice for some people.

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              Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing. You can spot «danger for someone» just about anywhere you look.

              Now the question was if you sometimes drink strategically. Drinking all the time or every day isn't drinking strategically.

              Try being human sometimes, and not trying to outdo each other being «perfect». Unless you’re 14 and trying to fit in…

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                This is how you become an alcoholic.

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                Too hard

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                  Uncomfortable? I'd prefer caffeine for that.

                  Alcohol might compel me to say something I'd regret.

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                  That would likely make the anxiety worse

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                    That would likely make the anxiety worse

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                    Exercise then?

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                      Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                      It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                      Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                      I bought a pocket breathalyzer so I can be right in the pocket

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                        Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                        It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                        Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                        Anxiety is necessary sometimes. It’s fine to be anxious and it’s ok to be uncomfortable. You are having trouble managing your anxiety seek a therapist. Alcohol will trick you into thinking it’s a solution. Be careful, this is very similar to how my alcoholism and my fathers started.

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                          Too hard

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                          Would you care to clarify?

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                            Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                            It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                            Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                            Yes, my strategy is I don't drink and in turn I don't get hangovers

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                              Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing. You can spot «danger for someone» just about anywhere you look.

                              Now the question was if you sometimes drink strategically. Drinking all the time or every day isn't drinking strategically.

                              Try being human sometimes, and not trying to outdo each other being «perfect». Unless you’re 14 and trying to fit in…

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                              You can abuse alcohol to negative effect without drinking every day. Binge drinking and drinking to dull your emotions are other forms of alcohol abuse beyond just the classic portrayal of a "drinks all day or he gets the shakes" alcoholic. Maybe OP is doing this very occasionally and it's not a problem for them. But if you're using alcohol to as a coping mechanism with any sort of frequency, it's probably not a healthy situation.

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                                Generally speaking, when I've seen someone speak about a box of wine, it's the 3L one, not the smaller ones.

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                                  Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing. You can spot «danger for someone» just about anywhere you look.

                                  Now the question was if you sometimes drink strategically. Drinking all the time or every day isn't drinking strategically.

                                  Try being human sometimes, and not trying to outdo each other being «perfect». Unless you’re 14 and trying to fit in…

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                                  Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing.

                                  Thank you. But anecdotally, it seems there are few of us who think this. I still don't understand why.

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                                    Yeah, I'm aware of these. I was speaking of the big boxes, not the ones like this.

                                    I just hope that OP doesn't go down the same ruinous path that I did. Compared to where I was in my fifteen year journey with Alcohol Use Disorder, I was at about year four. Where I would drink in order to relax and be able to socialize with others.

                                    An over reliance on a substance to ease a social situation (no matter the reason), is a potential crossroads that can lead further down the path of abusing said substance.

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                                      Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                      It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                      Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                      Sure, but I was also an alcoholic. Very high functioning, but still at the end 100% dependant on it.

                                      The slope is so treacherously flat, you don't feel yourself slipping. I still have no idea how I ended up where I did, or for that matter how I ended up actually managing to quit.

                                      I'm sure some people can use liquid courage without it turning into depending on it to do the hard things, then more and more things turning hard and needing a boost to do it, or can wash away work with a drink at the end of the week, without having to wash it away at the end of every day, and then having a quick rinse-and-reset at lunch, and so on... But it's impossible to know which one you are until it's too late.

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                                        Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                        It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                        Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                        I've been doing "tipsy chore day" for a while. Do a chore > glass of wine > do another chore > glass of wine.... I may as well finish the bottle > do a chore > final glass.

                                        Chores are less boring, and you push through them to get your next glass. Has to be wine though, beer I don't get a buzz going, and spirits have me incompetent.

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                                          Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                          It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                          Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                          Using alcohol as a method to resolve personal problems can be a very dark path. Please be careful.

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