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Do you ever drink "strategically"?

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  • vodkasolution@feddit.itV [email protected]

    Too hard

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    Would you care to clarify?

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      Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

      It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

      Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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      Yes, my strategy is I don't drink and in turn I don't get hangovers

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        Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing. You can spot «danger for someone» just about anywhere you look.

        Now the question was if you sometimes drink strategically. Drinking all the time or every day isn't drinking strategically.

        Try being human sometimes, and not trying to outdo each other being «perfect». Unless you’re 14 and trying to fit in…

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        You can abuse alcohol to negative effect without drinking every day. Binge drinking and drinking to dull your emotions are other forms of alcohol abuse beyond just the classic portrayal of a "drinks all day or he gets the shakes" alcoholic. Maybe OP is doing this very occasionally and it's not a problem for them. But if you're using alcohol to as a coping mechanism with any sort of frequency, it's probably not a healthy situation.

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          Generally speaking, when I've seen someone speak about a box of wine, it's the 3L one, not the smaller ones.

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            Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing. You can spot «danger for someone» just about anywhere you look.

            Now the question was if you sometimes drink strategically. Drinking all the time or every day isn't drinking strategically.

            Try being human sometimes, and not trying to outdo each other being «perfect». Unless you’re 14 and trying to fit in…

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            Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing.

            Thank you. But anecdotally, it seems there are few of us who think this. I still don't understand why.

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              Yeah, I'm aware of these. I was speaking of the big boxes, not the ones like this.

              I just hope that OP doesn't go down the same ruinous path that I did. Compared to where I was in my fifteen year journey with Alcohol Use Disorder, I was at about year four. Where I would drink in order to relax and be able to socialize with others.

              An over reliance on a substance to ease a social situation (no matter the reason), is a potential crossroads that can lead further down the path of abusing said substance.

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                Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                Sure, but I was also an alcoholic. Very high functioning, but still at the end 100% dependant on it.

                The slope is so treacherously flat, you don't feel yourself slipping. I still have no idea how I ended up where I did, or for that matter how I ended up actually managing to quit.

                I'm sure some people can use liquid courage without it turning into depending on it to do the hard things, then more and more things turning hard and needing a boost to do it, or can wash away work with a drink at the end of the week, without having to wash it away at the end of every day, and then having a quick rinse-and-reset at lunch, and so on... But it's impossible to know which one you are until it's too late.

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                  Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                  It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                  Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                  I've been doing "tipsy chore day" for a while. Do a chore > glass of wine > do another chore > glass of wine.... I may as well finish the bottle > do a chore > final glass.

                  Chores are less boring, and you push through them to get your next glass. Has to be wine though, beer I don't get a buzz going, and spirits have me incompetent.

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                    Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                    It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                    Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                    Using alcohol as a method to resolve personal problems can be a very dark path. Please be careful.

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                      Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                      It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                      Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                      I do, but the other way as I'm getting old and can't down them like I used to. Met up with a mate to watch the F1 in the pub garden on a sunny Sunday, just had a couple of halves as I still wanted to try a number of new drops

                      Though I completely understand using alcohol to loosen up a bit, for numerous social situations. Definitely used it more that way in my younger days, to varying degrees of success

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                        Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing.

                        Thank you. But anecdotally, it seems there are few of us who think this. I still don't understand why.

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                        Lower karma posts are less likely to be seen?

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                          Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                          It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                          Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                          These days i rarely drink but a glass of wine with some pasta now and again goes down a treat

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                            Lower karma posts are less likely to be seen?

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                            Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone's mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.

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                              Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                              It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                              Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                              I mean, you could call it strategic, or you could call it relying on substances as a crutch to manage your emotions.

                              I'm not saying that's always bad, necessarily. There is the school of thought that it's just a tool, like in your edit. But, it's important to remember it can become a habit.

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                                Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone's mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.

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                                Freedom of speech as an absolute sounds virtuous until you hit the paradox of tolerance.

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                                  Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone's mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.

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                                  Then you do understand why people are downvoting because this is bad advice and others dont want people to see it.

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                                    Freedom of speech as an absolute sounds virtuous until you hit the paradox of tolerance.

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                                    Freedom of speech as an absolute

                                    Of course it's not absolute, where did I say otherwise? Straw man.

                                    paradox of tolerance

                                    This just feels like a fancy reference deployed to back up intolerance.

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                                      Then you do understand why people are downvoting because this is bad advice and others dont want people to see it.

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                                      I'll be honest, a quick review of this thread did not clearly reveal who was downvoting who for what. My position, and this other person's, is that downvoting opinions is bad manners and toxic to healthy discussion. If there was genuinely harmful advice there, then OK, downvote away.

                                      (Obviously these days the word "harmful" is thrown around liberally so this probably just puts us back to square one.)

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                                        Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                        It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                        Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                        I do this every time I go visit my father. His wife is a crazy narcissistic loon and I just cannot fucking stand being around her, so I drink when I'm there because it's the only way I can tolerate being around her. But my dad drinks with me, so I dunno, our relationship has been so strained and awkward for so long, I think we both do it to ease some of that tension.

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                                          Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                          It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                          Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                          Hmmm, may drink strategically to dodge rules like no self brought alcohol on the festival, or a way to feel the effect good enough before needing to run to the bus.

                                          But to deal with drama? No that I'm taking fully in so I can learn from it if something similar happens again

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