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Do you ever drink "strategically"?

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    Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

    It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

    Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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    Using alcohol as a method to resolve personal problems can be a very dark path. Please be careful.

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    • C [email protected]

      Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

      It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

      Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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      I do, but the other way as I'm getting old and can't down them like I used to. Met up with a mate to watch the F1 in the pub garden on a sunny Sunday, just had a couple of halves as I still wanted to try a number of new drops

      Though I completely understand using alcohol to loosen up a bit, for numerous social situations. Definitely used it more that way in my younger days, to varying degrees of success

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        Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing.

        Thank you. But anecdotally, it seems there are few of us who think this. I still don't understand why.

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        Lower karma posts are less likely to be seen?

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          Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

          It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

          Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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          These days i rarely drink but a glass of wine with some pasta now and again goes down a treat

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            Lower karma posts are less likely to be seen?

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            Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone's mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.

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              Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

              It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

              Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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              #53

              I mean, you could call it strategic, or you could call it relying on substances as a crutch to manage your emotions.

              I'm not saying that's always bad, necessarily. There is the school of thought that it's just a tool, like in your edit. But, it's important to remember it can become a habit.

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              • J [email protected]

                Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone's mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.

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                Freedom of speech as an absolute sounds virtuous until you hit the paradox of tolerance.

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                  Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone's mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.

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                  Then you do understand why people are downvoting because this is bad advice and others dont want people to see it.

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                    Freedom of speech as an absolute sounds virtuous until you hit the paradox of tolerance.

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                    Freedom of speech as an absolute

                    Of course it's not absolute, where did I say otherwise? Straw man.

                    paradox of tolerance

                    This just feels like a fancy reference deployed to back up intolerance.

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                      Then you do understand why people are downvoting because this is bad advice and others dont want people to see it.

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                      I'll be honest, a quick review of this thread did not clearly reveal who was downvoting who for what. My position, and this other person's, is that downvoting opinions is bad manners and toxic to healthy discussion. If there was genuinely harmful advice there, then OK, downvote away.

                      (Obviously these days the word "harmful" is thrown around liberally so this probably just puts us back to square one.)

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                        Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                        It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                        Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                        I do this every time I go visit my father. His wife is a crazy narcissistic loon and I just cannot fucking stand being around her, so I drink when I'm there because it's the only way I can tolerate being around her. But my dad drinks with me, so I dunno, our relationship has been so strained and awkward for so long, I think we both do it to ease some of that tension.

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                          Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                          It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                          Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                          Hmmm, may drink strategically to dodge rules like no self brought alcohol on the festival, or a way to feel the effect good enough before needing to run to the bus.

                          But to deal with drama? No that I'm taking fully in so I can learn from it if something similar happens again

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                            I downvoted you because I think you're judging just a little. Not everyone is an addict.

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                            Spoken like someone who hasn't seen how easy it is to ruin a life with alcohol.

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                              Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                              It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                              Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                              Short answer... no. Long answer... Noooooooooooooooooooo

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                PSA to the youngs who see Box of Wine and think QUANTITY.

                                Box of wine actually stays best longest because the tapped bag doesn't take in O2 and start to sour.
                                So box wine is usually pretty par for paced domestic drinking and cooking.

                                I'm sure someone has smashed the box, but they also serve people who are more likely to leave the last glass in the bottle too long.

                                Bought Box does not mean Drank Box.

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                                  Spoken like someone who hasn't seen how easy it is to ruin a life with alcohol.

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                                  Like I said. Judging, and projecting your problems onto everyone else.

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                                    Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                    It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                    Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                    No all my thoughts are dumb

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      I downvoted you because I think you're judging just a little. Not everyone is an addict.

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                                      I downvoted you because i think you're projecting your judgmental mindset onto others.

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                                        Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                        It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                        Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                        I strategically refrain from alcohol or other drug consumption. And my life has improved drastically ever since.

                                        Whatever the reason that you feel you have to abuse drugs as a coping mechanism, it will only make things worse. You will not be able to process your emotions, you will not be able to think clear about what is your best way forward and you will not be able to grow stronger while drugged up.

                                        The fact that you say you "needed to be anesthetized" for an uncomfortable conversation screams that you are either already having a drug abuse problem and that you have issues with your emotional regulation.

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                                          Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

                                          It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

                                          Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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                                          I know everyone in here’s saying no but I do. If I’m going to a social occasion I might have a drink beforehand; not much, just enough to feel it. I’m not the most comfortable in social situations and a beer can just take the edge off. I don’t get drunk or anything and I’d only do it if there’s going to be alcohol there anyway.

                                          I also drink sometimes to help me sleep. I have ADHD and I struggle to switch my brain off. Sometimes I hit like 2am and if I think I need it I have a bottle of whisky downstairs that I’ll go and have a drink off. Again, just enough to feel it. I have pills and medicine that help me sleep, and they work also, but they leave me feeling groggy the next day. With a little whisky I don’t even feel it the next day and it seems to work just as well. I don’t do it too often, maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks.

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