Have you encountered this?
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I'm surprised no one mentioned that a lot also calculate the tip after applying taxes.
Example: Meal was $40, then a 20% tip would be $8. But if taxes were $4 (making the total bill $44), then the receipt would show $8.80.
Your logic is inverted. The lines would have to have a place for folks to add in the taxes. Otherwise the math would work in the opposite direction – the calculated amounts would be lower than the amounts based on the number at the bottom. (Unless a discount was applied that’s not shown.)
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Tips in the US must be entirely out of control. In my experience, 10% is for good service, above for rare exceptional and less if you weren't entirely satisfied. Not even printing anything below 16 is insane.
20% has actually been the norm for a while. Maybe it was a bit on the upper end a couple decades ago while now it's more default, but I remember my parents tipping 20% for normal service back in the 90's. Of course, with prices soaring tipping is still getting pricier and pricier, but the expected percentage here has been relatively stable.
The thing that's out of control is where you're expected to tip now. I often see a tip prompt come up at retail stores where the only service the employee provided was ringing up the items I brought. I never tip in those kinds of situations, and I doubt the employee would see any of it even if I did.
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Your logic is inverted. The lines would have to have a place for folks to add in the taxes. Otherwise the math would work in the opposite direction – the calculated amounts would be lower than the amounts based on the number at the bottom. (Unless a discount was applied that’s not shown.)
I'm not sure what you're saying. But to expand on my point:
A lot of receipts have an area where they show you a "calculated tip" for some %s. Many restaurants calculate the tips using the total (meal+tax) rather than the subtotal (meal).
On those receipts the person still has to calculate the end amount (meal+tax+tip).
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Tipping by percentage never made much sense to me. I order a coffee at a diner, the waitress only gets a 42 cent tip? She should get more if she has to carry a plate of food? She checks on me the same amount. That's a five dollar tip at least.
Hahah in my country she gets a wage for that shit
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Why is 15% considered cheap when 15 years ago it was perfectly acceptable? A percentage is a percentage. Yes, cost of living has gone up but that includes food prices which means tips go up as a result automatically, hence the example I provided.
You said 10% for OK which is cheap.
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Wait so you get scammed but still give 20% tips? This would be an automatic 0% tip
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Fuck tips. 0 tips. Pay your people.
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No because I live in Australia where the govt forces restaurants to Pay their staff in full rather than outsource their wages to the customers directly.
Edit: Pay, not Pauly.
Wow must be cool living somewhere completely irrelevant to this post!
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Wow must be cool living somewhere completely irrelevant to this post!
wrote last edited by [email protected]we're in a section called "shitpost" and you're complaining about quality? also - its related by "tips", but maybe you just wanted to practise your sarcasm.
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This is one server, in one restaurant, not an industry-wide issue. Expecting some kind of regulatory remedy over an anecdotal issue is not the answer. I'm not a right-winger by any means, but even I know that the government isn't the solution to anything. There already is a law against this, so the local gendarmes are as far as this needs to go.
Remember when your mom told you "Don't make a Federal case out of it?" This is the kind of thing she was talking about, literally.
It actually already does cover it. He's tricking folks into tipping twice by failing to disclose that they have already tipped. It's simple fraud.
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Wait so you get scammed but still give 20% tips? This would be an automatic 0% tip
You think the wait staff setup the machine to do math wrong?
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Tipping is a holdover from slavery. It’s a way to control service workers.
This doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t tip people who rely on tips, it means the system is fucking broken by design.
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Not saying this isn’t real and completely scummy, but sometimes the tip is calculated before discounts, gift cards, and whatnot. I always tip based on what our total order was even if what we paid was less.
If this is truly trying to fudge the numbers to take advantage of people then that’s shitty.Also, the restaurant probably has no control over those numbers. The software might give them a Yes/No option on showing suggested tips or not at best.
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Wait so you get scammed but still give 20% tips? This would be an automatic 0% tip
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah, what's likely happening here is that the tip numbers were calculated off the subtotal intentionally. So say you buy a "happy hour" drink and it is $3 instead of $6, they tip is calculated before the "discount".
Their machine could have actually been wrong, but using a total before discounts seems more likely.
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Wow must be cool living somewhere completely irrelevant to this post!
If only, the tipping crap is trying to leak in here.
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You said 10% for OK which is cheap.
fuck tipping culture bro lmaooo its cancer
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Fuck tips. 0 tips. Pay your people.
You pay for the service of being waited on… don’t want to tip… then go to McDonald’s! wtf! 🤬
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It was probably the percentage BEFORE a discount was given… just because a discount happens doesn’t mean you should skip out on the tip of a server… example, you have a $100 bill with a $50 discount, you DO NOT TIP ON THE DISCOUNT, you tip on THE TOTAL bill of service. You still all got the same amount of food and service, so stop with this short tipping staff!
Can’t afford a tip then don’t fucking go to a damn restaurant! I make more as a server with half the hours than when I was a full time teacher! America is fucked but don’t fuck fellow people over because you can’t comprehend the tipping culture and are a cheap POS!
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This may be anecdotal, but I ran into this exact same issue a few weeks ago. The suggested 20% was significantly higher than the 20% on the bill. It took me a little bit to figure out, but we were at the restaurant for a steak special and happy hour. The 20% tip was for the non-special price. For example, the steak and two sides special was $18, but the normal price was $28. The drinks were $5 but the normal price was $8. So the suggested tip was 20% of $36, not 20% of $23. These aren't the exact numbers, and there were two of us, but you get the idea. The POS/Tip suggestion is setup so the servers don't get the shit end of the stick when the restaurant is doing a deal/special. I'm not sure I fully agree with it, and I have my own beef with tipping culture in general, but I'm just looking to explain what might be seen in OP's photo.
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You pay for the service of being waited on… don’t want to tip… then go to McDonald’s! wtf! 🤬
the restaurant pays for their staff… should you pay for having a table and chair too? staff is a basic requirement of a restaurant
