Have you encountered this?
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That would be a reason not to give a tip.
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Restaurant tries to scam customers, yet they still give a 20% tip?
Yep, that's a solid 0% for me
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The transaction remains open until the end of the shift. At the end of the shift, the checks are closed out with the updated tip amount included in the final charge.
Going back to the picture...thanks, now I have to confirm the restaurants math is correct and I'm bad at math.
The quick way I was taught to eyeball it is to shift the decimal over one place to the left in the total, and double it. That's 20%. In this case $30.53 > $3.053 > $6.106 ~ $6.10
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In Canada they just bring you the payment machine and it asks the percent you want to tip. There is a physical bill but its only used by the server to know what to enter really
You tip in Canada? I was hoping this sad culture was limited to usa.
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That would be a reason not to give a tip.
That would be a reason to throw hands (okay, I'd consider it for a second and then calm down but still!), and I'd definitely leave without paying, nvm the tip, lol. You'd be lucky if I didn't scream cause I randomly found a cockroach in my coffee or something.
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I'm (NOT) living in America.
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How sketchy has to be the scam so it justifies just leaving without paying?
Some scams i have encounter:
- added 3 pints per customer
- added things we didnt ask for (when asked about it, they said something on the lines "we forgot to charge that on another table, someone has to pay for it"
- menu prices weren't up to date
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Restaurant tries to scam customers, yet they still give a 20% tip?
Pretty sure the waitress wasn't the one who fucked with the register. Probably the restaurant trying to ensure they don't have to pay the difference if the tips come up short and leave the staff below minimum wage.
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No. But mostly because tips are not a thing here.
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In Canada they just bring you the payment machine and it asks the percent you want to tip. There is a physical bill but its only used by the server to know what to enter really
wrote last edited by [email protected]That’s because everything needs a pin, if you pay cash this still works this way. USA only started using pins around covid time iirc and it’s still not universal.
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Pretty sure the waitress wasn't the one who fucked with the register. Probably the restaurant trying to ensure they don't have to pay the difference if the tips come up short and leave the staff below minimum wage.
I feels like reasoning like this is why it would never end.
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You tip in Canada? I was hoping this sad culture was limited to usa.
It is sadly a part of canadian restaurant culture but not seen as mandatory. Canadian service workers are regulated to be paid at least minimum wage.
Companies mostly use tipping here as an excuse for the wages to not come out of their own pockets. If tips received equal or exceed minimum wage then they don't have to fork out the cash. If the employee only made $10hr in tips then the employer fills in the rest.
Because of this, I mostly refuse to tip. I'm not going to subsidise a restaurant paying their employees. If you can't afford to pay people you shouldn't be in business.
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The transaction remains open until the end of the shift. At the end of the shift, the checks are closed out with the updated tip amount included in the final charge.
Going back to the picture...thanks, now I have to confirm the restaurants math is correct and I'm bad at math.
I didn't know a transaction could be updated after the fact. That's wild.
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You WRITE the tip amount on the receipt? How does the payment terminal know how much to take?
The server has to manually enter it.
Here's their bullshit workflow:
- Print the check
- Customer reviews it
- Credit card is given to the server
- Card is swiped/authorized at the POS
- Server returns with the receipts
- Customer then writes in the tip amount and signs on the merchant copy
- Server takes the signed receipt and enters the tip amount back at the POS
For whatever reason, the USA keeps using their signature, when the technology for pay at the table has been around for decades.
Meanwhile, chip & PIN has been standard everywhere in Canada for the last decade, with some businesses using it for almost another decade prior to that. Mexico wasn't far behind either, so it's absolutely possible to adopt better methods.
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It is sadly a part of canadian restaurant culture but not seen as mandatory. Canadian service workers are regulated to be paid at least minimum wage.
Companies mostly use tipping here as an excuse for the wages to not come out of their own pockets. If tips received equal or exceed minimum wage then they don't have to fork out the cash. If the employee only made $10hr in tips then the employer fills in the rest.
Because of this, I mostly refuse to tip. I'm not going to subsidise a restaurant paying their employees. If you can't afford to pay people you shouldn't be in business.
Asterisk: there is such a thing as "minimum wage for tipped workers", which is lower than the normal minimum wage. At least in some provinces.
For instance, in Quebec, the normal minimum wage is $16.10 per hour, but for tipped workers, it's $12.90$.
And yes, my reaction to this is also "what the fuck".
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I have seen this in a few places in person. It must be relatively common.
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Restaurant tries to scam customers, yet they still give a 20% tip?
"Fuck you restaurant for trying to scam me, now I'll only pay the correct 20% extra on top of my bill"
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Asterisk: there is such a thing as "minimum wage for tipped workers", which is lower than the normal minimum wage. At least in some provinces.
For instance, in Quebec, the normal minimum wage is $16.10 per hour, but for tipped workers, it's $12.90$.
And yes, my reaction to this is also "what the fuck".
Thanks for the clarification. I totally forgot it isn't federally regulated.
There are also student wages which allow you to pay students under 18 even lower wages. Fun stuff!
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I don't think it's "fake", but rather incorrect. They seem to base those percentages on the post tax amount when tips are usually calculated on the pre tax amount.
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That would be a reason not to give a tip.
It's probably basing the tip on a pre discount amount.
The writer is proud of doing math but should be ashamed of their critical thinking and ego.
