Pangolin at Work #1
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What a horribly sad life OP must be living that their greatest claim to fame is a comic that was made for them.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Wow and you're an utter shitcunt to boot. Do you take joy in belittling others?
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youre using a tool developed by technocratic fascist companies, which uses insane amounts of water and energy. fuck your feelings, this is my planet too. you dont care about anyone other than yourself.
And how much fucking power do you think the global telecommunications industry and data hosting that enables you to post your pathetic hate on Lemmy uses? Fucking moron, go fuck yourself.
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do it!! im serious!! learn to appreciate the hard work of creativity! it's a labor of love. your machines will not help you grow.
i deeply regret having used AI after experiencing the magic that is creation
the hard work of creativity!
The creativity is the idea, the execution is the work. Execution is simple mechanical rote, nothing special.
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And how much fucking power do you think the global telecommunications industry and data hosting that enables you to post your pathetic hate on Lemmy uses? Fucking moron, go fuck yourself.
"and yet you participate in society. curious! i am very smart."
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the hard work of creativity!
The creativity is the idea, the execution is the work. Execution is simple mechanical rote, nothing special.
i dont think you have a soul dude.
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Wow and you're an utter shitcunt to boot. Do you take joy in belittling others?
When they're fans of the social-alienation technology, uh, yes.
Everyone says they'd go back in time to stop world war 2, but nobody wants to stop the mental illness robot.
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How…do I do that exactly
️This community is hosted on db0 which is AI friendly. You can post there from any lemmy account. Sorry you had such a bad experience here. Some people are just mean and angry.
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The author is exploring their comedian skills, not their drawing skills.
Never realised I would have to explain what "no hate" means
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EDIT: It’s honestly hard to believe how intense and personal some of the hostility in this thread is. I understand objecting to something when there is a valid concern, especially about ethics or consent. But this is something else entirely. It feels less like people are engaging with the actual work and more like they are reacting to the mere presence of AI in any form, regardless of context.
I don’t think LLMs are universally good or bad. I think they are very very bad at a large number of things, especially when people try to use them as shortcuts in places where care, originality, or expertise (or human understanding and subsequent empathy) are required. But they are also extremely effective in other use cases when used with skill, intention, and thought. That is the position I hold. It is nuanced. It does not dismiss the criticisms people have raised, but it also does not treat every use of the technology as automatically unethical or invalid.
What I did was not a random one-line prompt into a generator. I gave deliberate, specific instructions about pose, anatomy, style, and tone. I gave feedback. I adjusted the inputs. I guided it through a process that produced something unique and original. The result is not a collage of stolen images. It is not a copy of anything that has ever existed. That is important context, and it is constantly ignored in these arguments.
There is a real difference between raising concerns in good faith and launching personal attacks at people who use a tool in a considered way. The people jumping into these threads with moral outrage are not engaging in objective analysis. They are repeating talking points as if AI art is some kind of singular personal enemy. It often feels like they are reacting based on something they heard someone else say, rather than thinking critically about what is in front of them.
And this is happening in a community that is supposed to be supportive of neurodivergent people. That is the part I find most maddening. There is room here for discussion and for disagreement. But instead of debate, we get judgment, condescension, rabid hostility, and attempts to shame people for trying something different. That is not the kind of environment anyone should want to foster.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I find genAI imagery extremely uncanny and creepy, and I can't condone the usage of a system whose creators yearn for a day where companies won't have to pay human creators anymore and can simply funnel their funds directly into the pockets of giant corporations instead.
Additionally, commercial-scale generative AI is already destroying the environment in communities across the world due to its power use.
Also plagiarism: https://spectrum.ieee.org/amp/midjourney-copyright-2666872100
Commercial image generation models are trained on real people's copyrighted works with no regard for paying them for using said work, putting more money in large corporations' pockets.
It's not something I can accept nor condone, and I will continue to shame people for facilitating the transfer of wealth and destruction of our environment.
I thought we could do better on Lemmy than to lean on large, polluting technology companies for content, those same companies who have military deals to create civilian-killing robots.
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I find genAI imagery extremely uncanny and creepy, and I can't condone the usage of a system whose creators yearn for a day where companies won't have to pay human creators anymore and can simply funnel their funds directly into the pockets of giant corporations instead.
Additionally, commercial-scale generative AI is already destroying the environment in communities across the world due to its power use.
Also plagiarism: https://spectrum.ieee.org/amp/midjourney-copyright-2666872100
Commercial image generation models are trained on real people's copyrighted works with no regard for paying them for using said work, putting more money in large corporations' pockets.
It's not something I can accept nor condone, and I will continue to shame people for facilitating the transfer of wealth and destruction of our environment.
I thought we could do better on Lemmy than to lean on large, polluting technology companies for content, those same companies who have military deals to create civilian-killing robots.
wrote last edited by [email protected]This is the right approach if your goal is to change people’s minds. Reasoned, fact-supported, logical debate is valuable, and I respect that. There is no need to shame individual creators for how they choose to explore their ideas or make use of available tools.
I do not agree with every point you raised, but I think these are serious concerns worth discussing. That includes issues like corporate influence, data usage, and environmental impact. I am always open to that kind of conversation when it is grounded in good faith.
