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  3. In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

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  • E [email protected]

    Basically. It's essentially a full-on sentence and last time I looked, Microsoft allowed about half the character length.

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    Well, at least they aren't pretending to accept longer passwords but actually truncating it, like they used to in hotmail and live.

    They were silently truncating the passwords to something like the first 16 characters, the rest was ignored.

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    • D [email protected]

      Windows 11 seemed to kick and scream relentlessly to make coexisting impossible. So I called its bluff and nuked its stupid ass. It refuses to play nice? OK; It never gets to play again. Fuck windows. I have a separate machine for windows if I really need it.

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      Good for you! Nuking windows is indeed the end goal. Dual boot for me is a proof of concept as a step on the way.

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      • Z [email protected]

        Clone your drive first and then no matter what happens you have a quick click to restore. I've run dual boots on multiple distros for years and you learn a whole lot when things go wrong.

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        #125

        Good call. I have 2 hard dives and really thought that if I didn’t touch the win 11 drive it couldn’t possibly cause windows issues. Lol. Not making that mistake again.

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        • Z [email protected]

          The answer is a bit complicated. Linux has a long history with HDR where you would need exact software and hardware, or else no HDR... Just know that it will get easier because the ball has already started to roll in the correct direction.

          But the shortest way I can say it now,

          If you use Valve's game mode, (which is possible to get either using steamos, bazzite, chimera OS, nobara, or you can manually set it up. You should be able to get it to work. This should work for windows games that support HDR. AFAIK there are no Linux games yet supporting HDR. It should be possible to get videos playing with HDR also, but that would be an exercise for the reader, or wait until people make it easier.

          Please correct me if I am wrong, but I currently believe the newest version, of KDE and Gnome are now HDR ready. If I am wrong you might just need the newest beta which will become stable Q2 this year.

          Playing videos, I believe the newest version of MPV just got HDR support. With more apps incoming.

          Anything that let's a gamepad or a remote browse your videos? AFAIK not yet, but be patient, as this is all new

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          If you use Valve’s game mode, (which is possible to get either using steamos, bazzite, chimera OS, nobara, or you can manually set it up. You should be able to get it to work. This should work for windows games that support HDR. AFAIK there are no Linux games yet supporting HDR. It should be possible to get videos playing with HDR also, but that would be an exercise for the reader, or wait until people make it easier.

          gamescope is what you're going to want to search for if you're attempting this exercise. I just set gamescope in the launch options for the games where I want HDR.

          Wayland has had HDR support for around 6 months (using Arch, btw, so YMMV depending on how current your distro is). The issue has been that there is no way for an application to determine if your hardware supports HDR because Wayland doesn't have color management protocols.

          The Wayland color management protocols are done and are targeted for the next major release of Wayland (in a month or two, roughly). In the meantime, in applications that supports it (like mpv if you want to watch movies) you can launch it with ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1 to let it know that your setup can use HDR. Once the protocols are released you won't need to do this.

          You can edit/create a .desktop file for HDR mpv like so:

          Exec=ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1 mpv --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui --vo=gpu-next --target-colorspace-hint --gpu-api=vulkan --gpu-context=waylandvk -- %U
          

          Here's a link to the topic on the Arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HDR_monitor_support

          TL;DR: Official support in a few months. But this is Linux, so you can get things sooner if you want to tinker.

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          • O [email protected]

            Genuine question:

            What's the point of a long password on Windows? I understand that you sometimes don't want people accessing your stuff, but at it takes to bypass that and someone access your files is booting off of a USB stick. Or do you perhaps use full disk encryption?

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            Most people are more worried about remote attackers than someone physically putting hands on their PC. But, yes, you should pretty much without exception be using full disk encryption.

            It's very assholish of Microsoft to lock bitlocker behind the Pro license.

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            • N [email protected]

              It's double speak.

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              #128

              It's like when they say "We value your privacy" it really means "Selling your data is worth a lot of money/value to me".

              "User Security" means "We want to secure customers/users for our cloud services by forcing a login to a microsoft account"

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              • E [email protected]

                I use that command partially because Microsoft accounts don't allow passwords as long as the password I like to use for my PC

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                Which suggests to me that MS stores plaintext passwords. Because a hash function doesn't care about the length of what it's hashing, the output will always be the same length, so they could verify a 300 character password with the same storage space as a 3 character password.

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                • C [email protected]

                  The command OOBE\bypassnro (.cmd) one types into the command prompt (after opening it with Shift+F10) for the bypass is the location of a batch file they will be removing. You can still do whatever it's doing (adding a registry key and restarting) by typing the command manually or providing a copy of the file on a USB drive. After a restart, the OS will check for the registry key AND lack of internet connection to provide the local account option.

                  For the record, the contents of the file are

                  @echo off
                  reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG\_DWORD /d 1 /f
                  shutdown /r /t 0
                  
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                  #130

                  Until they remove checking that reg key from all versions other than maybe enterprise. If they decide that running windows requires an MS online account, they can keep bumping up the difficulty of running it without whenever they want.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    The command OOBE\bypassnro (.cmd) one types into the command prompt (after opening it with Shift+F10) for the bypass is the location of a batch file they will be removing. You can still do whatever it's doing (adding a registry key and restarting) by typing the command manually or providing a copy of the file on a USB drive. After a restart, the OS will check for the registry key AND lack of internet connection to provide the local account option.

                    For the record, the contents of the file are

                    @echo off
                    reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG\_DWORD /d 1 /f
                    shutdown /r /t 0
                    
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                    #131

                    Thank you! I've bookmarked this for next time I have a Windows reinstall! Hoping it still works then...

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                    • excrubulent@slrpnk.netE [email protected]

                      What is Windows 10 LTSC? LTSC is the abbreviation of Long Term Servicing Channel. It is a stripped-down enterprise operating system based on a specific version of Windows 10. Windows 10 LTSC don’t have pre-installed apps such as Microsoft Edge, Cortana assistant, News, etc. Using the LTSC service model, you can delay receiving feature updates and only receive monthly device quality updates.

                      Holy SHIT they made a version with the worst stuff removed AND they're going to maintain it longer? That is the version everybody should be using.

                      I'm slowly switching to linux but there are things I'm going to need Windows for for the foreseeable future, and I think I've found how I can make that happen. Thank you.

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                      It's used for industrial applications like manufacturing and whatnot, stuff that really doesn't need to be updated regularly since the software is effectively legacy.

                      Hell, we've got tools from the 2000s still running Win2k.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        So here we go. Kiosk machines with random Microsoft account and MFA to private phone numbers. Glad I don’t have to manage that pile of s**t.

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                        That's what W10 LTSC is for.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Is mint still using that old gnome fork DE? KDE Plasma might be a nicer and still familiar experience for people coming from windows

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                          It's a fork of Gnome but its well maintined, very familliar to windows users, and very reliable.

                          I personally pefer KDE but Cinnamon is likely a better choice for new users.

                          Not to mention, Mint itself is a super reliable distro. I use Fedora but keep my partner on Mint and she has maybe 10% of the issues I do.

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                          • N [email protected]

                            as soon as i had arch linux set up in the bathroom i sat down to take a wet crap and said ooooh god yea FRRSSHHHFFTTGTTTBBLPP fuuuuuck yeah that's good PRRGGFFFHTTSSGGRTTTT uuuuggghh fuck

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                            I mean, yes, but...what the fuck 😂

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                            • G [email protected]

                              Any Lenovo laptop is a very safe bet! You can just install Linux onto it and should work great

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                              They're probably okay, but I've avoided Lenovo since that one time they injected their own certificate authority to break all your internet security and middle-man in their own ads (and spy on you? Who knows?).

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                              • T [email protected]

                                Just one more reason to skip Windows 11…

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                                My hardware refresh came up this year. The asked for a MacBook instead of a windows laptop for the first time in my long career. Linux isn’t an option at my org yet.

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                                  Just one more reason to skip Windows 11…

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                                  My work laptop has W11. It's....fine. But I don't have to manage it, so... ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

                                  I had W11 on my personal gaming PC for a total of 6 months before I got fed up with it. Running W10 until I make sure it'll run everything I need it to on Linux Mint (LMDE).

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Until they remove checking that reg key from all versions other than maybe enterprise. If they decide that running windows requires an MS online account, they can keep bumping up the difficulty of running it without whenever they want.

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                                    They are keeping around so many deprecated features for internal use and whatnot, I would be surprised if they did remove this registry check.

                                    Until Windows 12 is released, you can always use an old ISO and then update to the newest version.

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                                    • A [email protected]

                                      My hardware refresh came up this year. The asked for a MacBook instead of a windows laptop for the first time in my long career. Linux isn’t an option at my org yet.

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                                      If you have the money to drop on a Mac it’s definitely better, but there’s a bit more work to get games going. So if you play games elsewhere a Mac is to easy to recommend.

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                                        If you have the money to drop on a Mac it’s definitely better, but there’s a bit more work to get games going. So if you play games elsewhere a Mac is to easy to recommend.

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                                        It’s for work only, no gaming. I have a Steam Deck and a Linux desktop for gaming.

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          Rufus has an option to auto add this for you when building a bootable drive. Works great.

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                                          Still using Rufus? Ventoy is the way of the future. One USB, hundreds of ISOs.

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