In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.
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We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
Any windows fanboy cares to explain how this supposedly enhances a user's security?
The spin on requiring an internet connection being phrased as 'ensures all users exit setup with internet connectivity' is amazing too.
Not wanting to seem like a windows fanboi in the slightest, but.. I guess they're saying that if you log in to your windows box using their cloud authentication, then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements.. and because they're in a position to see all auth attempts against that account, they can react to attacks.. having said that. a lot of those advantages go away if you're not actually connected to the internet.. but then, you also lose automatic updates.. it's a difficult question.. I can see how it could be better for a non computer-savvy user to log in using a microsoft account, but that also makes is worse and more frustrating for advanced users who don't want to touch microsoft's cloud at all. I guess they made the decision based on what was better for the majority of users.
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Not wanting to seem like a windows fanboi in the slightest, but.. I guess they're saying that if you log in to your windows box using their cloud authentication, then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements.. and because they're in a position to see all auth attempts against that account, they can react to attacks.. having said that. a lot of those advantages go away if you're not actually connected to the internet.. but then, you also lose automatic updates.. it's a difficult question.. I can see how it could be better for a non computer-savvy user to log in using a microsoft account, but that also makes is worse and more frustrating for advanced users who don't want to touch microsoft's cloud at all. I guess they made the decision based on what was better for the majority of users.
That's what they're saying - it's not true, but it is what they're saying.
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That was one of the things that drove me away from Windows. Coming to my desk in the morning to see my computer on not sleeping because it woke up to apply updates or some other shit pissed me off.
Just one of the many ways that with Windows, my computer didn't feel like I was in control of it anymore.
With Linux, I'm in complete control and it feels so good. Also knowing that I'm not giving out data just by using my computer is great. And FOSS is just cool.
And FOSS is just cool.
It's such an underrated feature of desktop Linux. The fact that if I experience an issue with a piece of software, I could find the program's source code and browse issues to see if anyone had a shared experience. And if not, I could publicly submit an issue which the developers and other users/contributors could help resolve.
On windows/macos which both fail to foster robust foss communities remotely comparable to Linux, the best option more often than not was sending an email to some support address that either never gets checked, or only replies with canned messages. After which you'll never know whatnif anything happened to your report.
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I like seeing these posts, non issue now that im on linux, need more ppl to swap to help the piracy ecosystem
I’m waiting for things like HDR to work properly on Linux - once it’s as easy to mod and play games on Linux as it is Windows I’ll be making the jump.
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Meanwhile everyone here saying they switching to Linux (which is perfectly fine) have chik-fil-a and McDonald's accounts probably
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The only difference I see both try to follow posix macos follows the unix specification linux doesn't and that's about it
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MSI have dropped AMD as a GPU partner as of this generation (funnily enough - also the same generation they had proven to be their highest selling!), and their next generation of PSUs have dropped PCIe 6+2 for whatever the current HPV12 implementation is, so they’re in my shit-list too.
Gigabyte’s warranty support has been ass in the past (at least in my region), and their 3000-series GPUs were prone to overheating due to poor quality thermal pads. Oh, and their PSUs were sub-par and prone to exploding!
I think ASRock is the only ‘Tier 1’ brand (that I’m aware of) without massive controversies in the past few years?
ASrock is ASUS. I don’t trust their quality. They are on the same level to me as Razer products. The lowest of the low in quality assurance.
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How the hell are we supposed to install it without a Internet connection? I worked in a company that was so hard on security that only certified machines were allowed access to the net, so virtual machines were not allowed to access the LAN and therefore the Internet. Generally not a problem as we just used them to test software on different OS versions, so no Internet required.
This change disallows all offline installs. What is their gain? Are they that keen on our data or are they planning to use the connection to a Microsoft account for something even worse than just selling personal information?
I could think of a few reasons and none are nice... -
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The command
OOBE\bypassnro(.cmd) one types into the command prompt (after opening it with Shift+F10) for the bypass is the location of a batch file they will be removing. You can still do whatever it's doing (adding a registry key and restarting) by typing the command manually or providing a copy of the file on a USB drive. After a restart, the OS will check for the registry key AND lack of internet connection to provide the local account option.For the record, the contents of the file are
@echo off reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG\_DWORD /d 1 /f shutdown /r /t 0 -
I’m waiting for things like HDR to work properly on Linux - once it’s as easy to mod and play games on Linux as it is Windows I’ll be making the jump.
You might want to take a low at https://bazzite.gg/
It's what I'm using for my desktop and I've been happily gaming ever since.
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ASrock is ASUS. I don’t trust their quality. They are on the same level to me as Razer products. The lowest of the low in quality assurance.
I remembered reading somewhere that ASRock started off as ASUS ‘budget’ brand - but had since been spun off into its own entity.
I thought that meant that they were sold off, and were a completely separate company now - but it looks I was wrong, they’re still a subsidiary.
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I remembered reading somewhere that ASRock started off as ASUS ‘budget’ brand - but had since been spun off into its own entity.
I thought that meant that they were sold off, and were a completely separate company now - but it looks I was wrong, they’re still a subsidiary.
I think I’ll just go to RadioShack and solder my own board. Every company is shit these days.
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1809 gang rise up
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Yup. Competent nerds like us make up about 0.0002% of their earnings. The big business is in corporate, and the hordes of plebs as a distant second.
I'm positive competent nerds make up none of their earnings, because we've all been pirating Microsoft software ever since we were tall enough to reach the keyboard.
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I tried setting up a dual boot Mint next to my Win 11 last night. Just so I can experiment with getting all the (replacement) programs of my Win 11 install to work on there… froze during install and was busy for hours getting my boot files for Win 11 back.
I’m not a technical genius or anything and now I’m scared to try again. I assume it’s way easier if I would just rip the bandaid off and do it in one go. Sadly too much relies on me still being able to use the computer close to the way I could before. Ah well. Another day, another chance to nuke the boot files.
Clone your drive first and then no matter what happens you have a quick click to restore. I've run dual boots on multiple distros for years and you learn a whole lot when things go wrong.
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windows is not user friendly
Exactly!
My answer to everyone saying "but Linux is hard..!"
No, it’s DIFFERENT!!
If using Cinnamon was your first learning experience on a computer, you’d think Windows is the worst user experience in the world!
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How the hell are we supposed to install it without a Internet connection? I worked in a company that was so hard on security that only certified machines were allowed access to the net, so virtual machines were not allowed to access the LAN and therefore the Internet. Generally not a problem as we just used them to test software on different OS versions, so no Internet required.
This change disallows all offline installs. What is their gain? Are they that keen on our data or are they planning to use the connection to a Microsoft account for something even worse than just selling personal information?
I could think of a few reasons and none are nice...I'm sure there's a way around it for institutional customers.
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You might want to take a low at https://bazzite.gg/
It's what I'm using for my desktop and I've been happily gaming ever since.
I started using Bazzite last year and it's fantastic, but modding seems to be a bit of a headache on it right now. I think Nexus Mod Manager is going to really help that once its got more than Stardew working though.
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So here we go. Kiosk machines with random Microsoft account and MFA to private phone numbers. Glad I don’t have to manage that pile of s**t.
