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How often do you take him for a walk?

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    Or is it yet another example of social decay, that parents can’t even discipline/raise their kids well enough to allow them outside without leashes?

    From what I've heard, the expectations of behavior for children in public spaces has gotten a lot more strict. People generally have very little patience for your kid's antics. Also fewer mothers are dedicated homemakers, and when time and energy are tight, a leash might be a good bandaid.

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    People having little patience for children is yet another example/consequence of social decay. Imagine being a grown adult and treating kids with anything but playful kindness...

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      Are chained kids particularly difficult to raise, more so than before (and than kids in any other culture besides the one that puts leashes on their kids...)? Were people doing this 100 years ago in America, for instance? Or is it yet another example of social decay, that parents can't even discipline/raise their kids well enough to allow them outside without leashes?

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      What an ignorant comment. There's evidence to suggest walking attachment devices for young children were used way back in the 17th century. It's possible that similar things were used earlier than that too. An early version of the modern one we are all familiar with now, started selling in the 1920s. Incidentally, use of it skyrocketed as more and more cars, faster cars and busier roads spread across the modern world.

      And another thing, use of these leashes is common for parents of kids with disabilities. I have to use one with my son because his learning difficulties mean that he doesn't understand danger and if he gets frightened/overwhelmed he will often run away in a panic.

      I don't like using it but I would rather have my disabled son safe and alive than not use it, and judgemental attitudes like this are the reason that I have to put up with unsolicited, nasty comments when I take him out in public; when I'm already dealing with the stress of keeping a child with extra supervisory needs safe and well.

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        Kids are incapable of resisting their urge to do something to a certain degree at certain ages. Like suddenly running onto the street for example. Some kids just do this, and then your only option to keep them safe is a leash.

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        Just spitballing here, but I kinda wonder if modern tech isn't worsening children's impulse control. Having constant instant gratification surely has some negative effects on it.

        Anecdotal evidence here, but my friends who are parents cut way back on how much tech time their kids got, and they said there was a huge improvement in their general behaviour.

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          Kids are incapable of resisting their urge to do something to a certain degree at certain ages. Like suddenly running onto the street for example. Some kids just do this, and then your only option to keep them safe is a leash.

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          I literally have never seen a kid on a leash IRL (I'm not American) nor heard anyone say "goddamn this kid is so hard to raise, lemme put him on a leash". Never seen a pic of my gramps on a leash, or a history book showing leashed kids. Through millennia kids have been properly raised without leashes. So, I ask again, is this not just another example of how incompetent people have gotten at being people in some areas of the world?

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            What an ignorant comment. There's evidence to suggest walking attachment devices for young children were used way back in the 17th century. It's possible that similar things were used earlier than that too. An early version of the modern one we are all familiar with now, started selling in the 1920s. Incidentally, use of it skyrocketed as more and more cars, faster cars and busier roads spread across the modern world.

            And another thing, use of these leashes is common for parents of kids with disabilities. I have to use one with my son because his learning difficulties mean that he doesn't understand danger and if he gets frightened/overwhelmed he will often run away in a panic.

            I don't like using it but I would rather have my disabled son safe and alive than not use it, and judgemental attitudes like this are the reason that I have to put up with unsolicited, nasty comments when I take him out in public; when I'm already dealing with the stress of keeping a child with extra supervisory needs safe and well.

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            As you said, he's disabled. I have a trisomic uncle and I would've understood if he was put on a leash (he wasn't, he just listened to my grandpa, but not everyone has it so easy). I don't understand the need for it in other cases. I mean, two of my friends' kids are runners and all we do is just run with them and grab them when the time is done, they/we have never had any need for a leash. I'm sorry if people have harassed you about it though, I certainly wouldn't. I just voice my questions and opinions in voluntarily attended online spaces.

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              Are chained kids particularly difficult to raise, more so than before (and than kids in any other culture besides the one that puts leashes on their kids...)? Were people doing this 100 years ago in America, for instance? Or is it yet another example of social decay, that parents can't even discipline/raise their kids well enough to allow them outside without leashes?

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              I think it's more the fact that kids weren't really brought to busy markets/stores 100 years ago, nor were there busy streets full of cars everywhere. They stayed home or just in the local environment, and typically mom would also stay home to watch them and make sure they stayed out of trouble.

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                “Timmy want a cookie? Timmy want a cookie? Good boy!”

                Dammit dad, I’m 5!

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                  I think it's more the fact that kids weren't really brought to busy markets/stores 100 years ago, nor were there busy streets full of cars everywhere. They stayed home or just in the local environment, and typically mom would also stay home to watch them and make sure they stayed out of trouble.

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                  So, in the West (again, I doubt we're talking about 100 years ago in India), people were socialized like that until recently? They weren't going to parks and markets? Mmm. That's possible, I guess? I somehow doubt that to be true, but I'll take your word for it because I'm too lazy to do otherwise. 😅

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                    I've always felt weird about parents who have those backpack leashes for their kids, but now that I've been living next to my in-laws for a year, who have 8 children, I understand some of them.

                    I refuse to take some their kids anywhere unless one of them is with my wife and I.

                    One would absolutely go sprinting full speed away and hide from us just because he thinks it's hilarious.

                    Two would wander off because they saw something shiny and their brains are like an etch-a-sketches where every time a new thought enters, the old one has to get wiped away.

                    One would do the exact opposite of anything we say just because he figures he can.

                    And three others would absolutely just wander off, not because they want to but just because kids aren't always the best at spatial awareness and simply get too far away. And would be terrified if they noticed their adults were nowhere in sight.

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                      What an ignorant comment. There's evidence to suggest walking attachment devices for young children were used way back in the 17th century. It's possible that similar things were used earlier than that too. An early version of the modern one we are all familiar with now, started selling in the 1920s. Incidentally, use of it skyrocketed as more and more cars, faster cars and busier roads spread across the modern world.

                      And another thing, use of these leashes is common for parents of kids with disabilities. I have to use one with my son because his learning difficulties mean that he doesn't understand danger and if he gets frightened/overwhelmed he will often run away in a panic.

                      I don't like using it but I would rather have my disabled son safe and alive than not use it, and judgemental attitudes like this are the reason that I have to put up with unsolicited, nasty comments when I take him out in public; when I'm already dealing with the stress of keeping a child with extra supervisory needs safe and well.

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                      My autistic son would happily play in the park. Just once every few months he would decide that “now is the time to run” and just take off as fast as he could in a straight line. How would that play out in a busy street.

                      People can’t imagine that: so much of the time things are calm, straightforward to handle, but if EVER you let your guard down for a second at the wrong time, you’ll end up on the news as a “tragic story of grieving negligent parent.”

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                        I've always felt weird about parents who have those backpack leashes for their kids, but now that I've been living next to my in-laws for a year, who have 8 children, I understand some of them.

                        I refuse to take some their kids anywhere unless one of them is with my wife and I.

                        One would absolutely go sprinting full speed away and hide from us just because he thinks it's hilarious.

                        Two would wander off because they saw something shiny and their brains are like an etch-a-sketches where every time a new thought enters, the old one has to get wiped away.

                        One would do the exact opposite of anything we say just because he figures he can.

                        And three others would absolutely just wander off, not because they want to but just because kids aren't always the best at spatial awareness and simply get too far away. And would be terrified if they noticed their adults were nowhere in sight.

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                        You lost a kid. That's only 7

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                          You lost a kid. That's only 7

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                          The last one wouldn't look both ways before crossing a street...

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                            You lost a kid. That's only 7

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                            In fairness, that's why I feel like getting a leash.

                            Plus the oldest is 13 and at least she's responsible enough for us to look away for a few minutes and she will still be there.

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                              See, that's actually her husband, and they're into a consentual public humiliation + abdl kink. He came so hard when they got home. Mommy is such a good mistress.

                              (I have been lead around on a leash before myself, and I'll do it again, though for different reasons~)

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                                My parents sucked but I'm grateful they at least didn't leash me like a dog. They degraded me enough already.

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                                I can remember being on one. I used to use it to pull against my mom all the time and she was scared that if she let me off it I would run away. I didn't run away.

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                                  I was a leash kid

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                                    My parents sucked but I'm grateful they at least didn't leash me like a dog. They degraded me enough already.

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                                    My brother was leashed, but he would also run into traffic and chase animals if you let him.

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                                      I was a leash kid

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                                      Tell us about how it molded your personality

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                                        Tell us about how it molded your personality

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                                        I don't remember it at all. I have ADHD which may be related to why they got me a leash.

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                                          I remember being on one of those. They were fairly common in the 80s. I also deserved it because I was a little shit that would sprint away at the first opportunity in the grocery store.

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