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    It wasn't actually the rats that caused the plague, fleas and other people were the largest vectors not rats. rats are actually really similar to cats and spend a lot of time cleaning themselves

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      And to be fair, Europe thrived a lot more after the plague, since massive labour shortages meant the value of labour shot up dramatically, improving the quality of life and culminating in the Renaissance.

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      IIRC the plague was also the thing that invented surnames.

      Before you were just John, but after you had to travel to other cities and there might already be a John so you became John Smith or John <nameofcity>

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        The plague is actually what ended feudalism in Europe.

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        In the west! In the east? They switched to less laborious methods if need be, in fact laws were passed so that serf could no longer migrate away from their lords; making them the closest we have ever had to slavery with exception to the slaves we had

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          It wasn't actually the rats that caused the plague, fleas and other people were the largest vectors not rats. rats are actually really similar to cats and spend a lot of time cleaning themselves

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          If a carrier's planes sink an enemy ship, is it not a kill for the carrier as well?

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            If a carrier's planes sink an enemy ship, is it not a kill for the carrier as well?

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            Iirc the plague killed rats too so the rat isn't exactly a willing carrier. Besides that logic works for human to human transmission too.

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              Iirc the plague killed rats too so the rat isn't exactly a willing carrier. Besides that logic works for human to human transmission too.

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              I don't think rats are ever willingly carriers of disease. Almost no one is (except for very weird people)

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                It was not the rats who bringed the plague but the flea/parasite what the rats hosted.

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                  I don't think rats are ever willingly carriers of disease. Almost no one is (except for very weird people)

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                  I don't think rats are ever willingly carriers of disease.

                  Skavens lore it a nutshell.

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                    More of the fleas’ fault than the rats.

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                    Yersinia pestis actually kills fleas. It causes a blockage in their intestines, causing them to starve. That means they will sting a lot in a futile attempt to get sustenance, but all that happens is that they regurgitate YP into the victim. It's a really neat mechanism but very unethical. I hope modern bioweapons labs have vegan alternatives.

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                      "Thriving" is a bit strong.

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