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  • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

    Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

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    #4

    To a degree, but not every lemm.ee community has moved to piefed - and other piefed instances (made by people with active lemmy instances are emerging)

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    • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

      Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

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      #5

      True, but there aren't many piefed instances out there, and apparently some communities like that software more.

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      • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

        Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

        blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        It's not that clear: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45977837?scrollToComments=true

        The vast majority of communities are still on LW anyway: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

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        • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

          (jokes incoming about this community having to move for the nth time)

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          #7

          At some point we're going to need a recap of how it all came together

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          • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

            At some point we're going to need a recap of how it all came together

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            #8

            Old post for people interested: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682

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            • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

              (jokes incoming about this community having to move for the nth time)

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              #9

              The nomad community.

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              • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

                Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

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                #10

                I noticed this too and I’m not familiar with it. I might have to advocate against piefed like I do against world because it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

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                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                  It's not that clear: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45977837?scrollToComments=true

                  The vast majority of communities are still on LW anyway: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

                  coelacanth@feddit.nuC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  Most are still pending so we'll see how it shakes out. From a cursory glance I'm counting 19 out of 51 currently decided migrations being to piefed.social right now. A little less than half, maybe that's an acceptable amount of centralisation? I am not really engaged in these things it was just an observation.

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                  • H [email protected]

                    I noticed this too and I’m not familiar with it. I might have to advocate against piefed like I do against world because it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

                    Piefed is a separate software, so more aligned with lemmy than a specific instance. Moot point right now, as there's only a handful of instances.

                    I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                    As an aside, it seems like mbin isn't getting any love throughout this process.

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                    • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

                      Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

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                      #13

                      PieFed is awesome and the community migration feature makes things easier. Though yeah, it might be preferable to have picked something other than the flagship instance that rolls out new features fastest, i.e. a more "stable" instance that is behind that roll-out a bit. Though PieFed is still so new that there aren't that many to begin with. https://feddit.online/ is another strong option, but I don't know if it's based in Canada or the USA and anything in the latter might be unreliable in the future.

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                      • H [email protected]

                        I noticed this too and I’m not familiar with it. I might have to advocate against piefed like I do against world because it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

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                        #14

                        Lol then allow me to put your mind at ease:

                        Lemmy.world (LW) is the #1 instance with >16k MAUs (monthly active users)

                        lemm.ee btw was the #2 instance with 5.3k MAUs, roughly a third the size of LW

                        lemmynsfw.com is #3 with 3.6k

                        sh.itjust.works is #4 with 2.8k, 5.7-fold smaller than LW

                        fwiw Lemmy.ca is #7 with 1.6k MAUs

                        PieFed.social has 684 users total, as in <0.7k MAU, 24-fold smaller than LW

                        All of this according to Fediverse Observer stats (not that easy to use especially for PieFed, which it doesn't even have an icon for, and doesn't allow sharing of URLs for the sorting and filtering options very unfortunately).

                        TLDR: nothing across the entire Fediverse comes anywhere close to Lemmy.world in terms of users.

                        PieFed is gaining ground because the features are just that good in comparison to Lemmy, and because the admins are not authoritarians. Indeed, do look into it, bc it's well worth knowing about, and you may fall in love and switch yourself:-). I did.🥰❤️

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                        • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

                          Most are still pending so we'll see how it shakes out. From a cursory glance I'm counting 19 out of 51 currently decided migrations being to piefed.social right now. A little less than half, maybe that's an acceptable amount of centralisation? I am not really engaged in these things it was just an observation.

                          blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          All of the communities could have gone to lemm.ee, most of the communities would still be centralized mostly on Lemmy.world.

                          You need to scroll three times to to see the first Lemm.ee community on https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active ([email protected])

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                          • T [email protected]

                            it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

                            Piefed is a separate software, so more aligned with lemmy than a specific instance. Moot point right now, as there's only a handful of instances.

                            I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                            As an aside, it seems like mbin isn't getting any love throughout this process.

                            blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                            People on the Thrediverse never seemed really interested in microblogging

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                            • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                              it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                              People on the Thrediverse never seemed really interested in microblogging

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                              #17

                              True, though I was on kbin initially and found the microblogging stuff easy enough to just ignore.

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                              • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                                People on the Thrediverse never seemed really interested in microblogging

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                                #18

                                Even though I initially started out on kbin when I attempted this on the fediverse (because of its rich feature depth), it was pretty overdesigned in my opinion.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

                                  Piefed is a separate software, so more aligned with lemmy than a specific instance. Moot point right now, as there's only a handful of instances.

                                  I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                                  As an aside, it seems like mbin isn't getting any love throughout this process.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                                  This is happening by the way. Many lemmy communities are making their own instances based on Piefed. And the good news about Piefed is that community transferring is built in, so once larger more supported instances move over, it will be viable for any .social community to transfer over.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                                    This is happening by the way. Many lemmy communities are making their own instances based on Piefed. And the good news about Piefed is that community transferring is built in, so once larger more supported instances move over, it will be viable for any .social community to transfer over.

                                    jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                    But running my own PieFed instance I can say it's much much easier to run and especially update than Lemmy.

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                                    • jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ [email protected]

                                      To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                      But running my own PieFed instance I can say it's much much easier to run and especially update than Lemmy.

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                                      #21

                                      To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                      It does, I got 100 subscribers instantly on the communities I moved to Piefed

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                                      • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                        To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                        It does, I got 100 subscribers instantly on the communities I moved to Piefed

                                        jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #22

                                        Only internal instance subscribers I assume, nobody from Lemmy or other PieFed instances. As far as I know ActivityPub doesn't define how to move something like a community to a different instance.

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                                        • jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ [email protected]

                                          Only internal instance subscribers I assume, nobody from Lemmy or other PieFed instances. As far as I know ActivityPub doesn't define how to move something like a community to a different instance.

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                                          #23

                                          Rimu told me it would work between Piefed instances

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