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Am I the only one who thinks social media has destroyed the spirit of the internet?

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  • N [email protected]

    You want to walk us through that one Magellan because I'm curious to see how you're gonna get from A to Z.

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    do you need a detailed tutorial to get from A to B?

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      do you need a detailed tutorial to get from A to B?

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      Nah, you're going to need way more steps than that.

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      • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

        It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

        I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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        Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.

        Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.

        But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.

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        • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

          Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.

          Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.

          But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.

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          John Munch

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            Yeah its definitely just you...

            https://medium.com/@darianoneil/because-the-internet-how-social-media-ruined-music-ec2022282aa4

            https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/18tm3i8/cmv_social_media_is_destroying_western_society/

            https://listverse.com/2021/05/24/top-10-ways-social-media-is-ruining-the-world/

            https://www.bernsteinresearch.com/CMSObjectBR/Files/Recruiting/Global Internet - Has TikTok Ruined The Internet.pdf

            https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/01/long-youtube-videos-tiktok/677130/

            https://knowyourbest.com/social-media-ruined-society/

            https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_social_media_brings_out_the_worst_in_us

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            If it's just the op, then where did all these articles come from!? Social media for ants!?

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              My nickname back in high school.

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              • kissaki@feddit.orgK [email protected]

                You don't consider Lemmy to be social media?

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                For me, "Social Media(tm)" requires algorithm based media to be delivered to you without your input and heavy advertisement model attached that introduces corptate bias.

                Lemmy is more like a fancy forum. Not quite the same as old bbs forums, but still better then twitter, facebook and whatever the hell reddit is becoming.

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                • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                  Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.

                  Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.

                  But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.

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                  Star Wars or Star Trek.

                  This is what the sociologists call "eurocentrism"

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                  • N [email protected]

                    Nah, you're going to need way more steps than that.

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                    [reaching across the fourth wall]
                    are you just trolling?

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                    • embed_me@programming.devE [email protected]

                      Star Wars or Star Trek.

                      This is what the sociologists call "eurocentrism"

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                      Just out of curiosity, what would the Star Trek equivalent be outside of eurocentric experience?

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                      • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                        The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                        It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                        I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                        "social media" as buzzword (scientific speech, scientific image) and "social media" as political violence (commercial speech, manifest image) are two different beasts under the empire of law.

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                        • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                          It's not social media that did it. It's monopolistic, unregulated, greedy, giant tech corporations that made the internet shitty.

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                          Exactly, early social media was tons of fun. It was like the early internet but easier since anyone could make a profile with any info.

                          Then it had to be monetized. They had to glue eyeballs via attention, no matter what kind. Now it’s all rent seeking, innovation is 100% about what can produce an immediate return, no care for the long term. The grift economy…

                          It was not social media, that was about the people. It’s what the social media companies did in search of dollars that did it in. Greed. Full stop.

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                          • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                            The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                            It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                            I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                            The small communities are still there, you just don't visit them because you are on social media (like lemmy). Forums are still there. IRC is still there. Hell, even BBS and Usenet is still there if you really want to go that way.

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                            • A [email protected]

                              [reaching across the fourth wall]
                              are you just trolling?

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                              No I'm genuinely curious how you think the words you quoted mean something totally different from the meaning of the words in the quote.

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                                No I'm genuinely curious how you think the words you quoted mean something totally different from the meaning of the words in the quote.

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                                so complaining that they aren't the first one to say this, doesn't mean that you're complaining that they aren't the first to say this?

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                                  Just out of curiosity, what would the Star Trek equivalent be outside of eurocentric experience?

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                                  I honestly don't know, the world is so diverse.

                                  As for India, it could be quotes from the freedom fighters (maybe too historic) or one of the few early 2000s TV shows which used to be in the collective consciousness, before the nation descended into artistic illiteracy and degeneracy and hate.

                                  I am on the fediverse, yes I am allowed to have inflammatory opinions

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                                  • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                    Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.

                                    Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.

                                    But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.

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                                    “The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth — whether it’s scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based.”

                                    “We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.”
                                    — Jean-Luc Picard

                                    Some of the basic tenants of Star Trek society are inclusion and shared progress. Elitism and exclusion are how we got to the mess we find ourselves in.

                                    A better lesson is responsibility for the "nerds." You all sold your talents and abilities to salespeople and conmen instead of seeing the value in yourself. Then, you got manipulated into building a dystopian technology that entraps the common people instead of liberating them.

                                    They needed guidance and you gave them your insecurity instead. The evil desires the technology as it is does not have the intellect to manufacture it. That requires complicit "nerds."

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                                      Give me back my ICQ and Prodigy Internet you damned Gen Z!

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                                      • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                                        It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                                        I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                                        The Internet started going downhill around 2010, this is nothing new

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                                          so complaining that they aren't the first one to say this, doesn't mean that you're complaining that they aren't the first to say this?

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                                          My, you do this a lot. Just invent new things. You said I said he shouldn't talk about it. Which I didn't remotely say at all. Now you're changing the meaning a second time huh? See what I meant about needing more steps? Already way past B it seems.

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