Am I the only one who thinks social media has destroyed the spirit of the internet?
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You don't consider Lemmy to be social media?
For me, "Social Media(tm)" requires algorithm based media to be delivered to you without your input and heavy advertisement model attached that introduces corptate bias.
Lemmy is more like a fancy forum. Not quite the same as old bbs forums, but still better then twitter, facebook and whatever the hell reddit is becoming.
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Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.
Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.
But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.
Star Wars or Star Trek.
This is what the sociologists call "eurocentrism"
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Nah, you're going to need way more steps than that.
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Star Wars or Star Trek.
This is what the sociologists call "eurocentrism"
Just out of curiosity, what would the Star Trek equivalent be outside of eurocentric experience?
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The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.
It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.
I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.
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It's not social media that did it. It's monopolistic, unregulated, greedy, giant tech corporations that made the internet shitty.
Exactly, early social media was tons of fun. It was like the early internet but easier since anyone could make a profile with any info.
Then it had to be monetized. They had to glue eyeballs via attention, no matter what kind. Now it’s all rent seeking, innovation is 100% about what can produce an immediate return, no care for the long term. The grift economy…
It was not social media, that was about the people. It’s what the social media companies did in search of dollars that did it in. Greed. Full stop.
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The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.
It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.
I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.
The small communities are still there, you just don't visit them because you are on social media (like lemmy). Forums are still there. IRC is still there. Hell, even BBS and Usenet is still there if you really want to go that way.
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are you just trolling?wrote last edited by [email protected]No I'm genuinely curious how you think the words you quoted mean something totally different from the meaning of the words in the quote.
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No I'm genuinely curious how you think the words you quoted mean something totally different from the meaning of the words in the quote.
so complaining that they aren't the first one to say this, doesn't mean that you're complaining that they aren't the first to say this?
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Just out of curiosity, what would the Star Trek equivalent be outside of eurocentric experience?
I honestly don't know, the world is so diverse.
As for India, it could be quotes from the freedom fighters (maybe too historic) or one of the few early 2000s TV shows which used to be in the collective consciousness, before the nation descended into artistic illiteracy and degeneracy and hate.
I am on the fediverse, yes I am allowed to have inflammatory opinions
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Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.
Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.
But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.
“The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth — whether it’s scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based.”
“We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.”
— Jean-Luc PicardSome of the basic tenants of Star Trek society are inclusion and shared progress. Elitism and exclusion are how we got to the mess we find ourselves in.
A better lesson is responsibility for the "nerds." You all sold your talents and abilities to salespeople and conmen instead of seeing the value in yourself. Then, you got manipulated into building a dystopian technology that entraps the common people instead of liberating them.
They needed guidance and you gave them your insecurity instead. The evil desires the technology as it is does not have the intellect to manufacture it. That requires complicit "nerds."
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Give me back my ICQ and Prodigy Internet you damned Gen Z!
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The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.
It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.
I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.
The Internet started going downhill around 2010, this is nothing new
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so complaining that they aren't the first one to say this, doesn't mean that you're complaining that they aren't the first to say this?
My, you do this a lot. Just invent new things. You said I said he shouldn't talk about it. Which I didn't remotely say at all. Now you're changing the meaning a second time huh? See what I meant about needing more steps? Already way past B it seems.
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The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.
It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.
I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.
Community has been replaced by the trough.
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My, you do this a lot. Just invent new things. You said I said he shouldn't talk about it. Which I didn't remotely say at all. Now you're changing the meaning a second time huh? See what I meant about needing more steps? Already way past B it seems.
i still don't follow you,
how is it that you don't mean what your said. and assuming you meant what you said is wrong?
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Community has been replaced by the trough.
Is that an Animal Farm quote?
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Just out of curiosity, what would the Star Trek equivalent be outside of eurocentric experience?
Dragon Ball
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The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.
It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.
I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.
In its Facebook and onward phase, yes I agree. Prior to that we had this wonderful site called Livejournal where you could privately blog to a select group of friends, and it was the absolute best way to brain dump, have people give you real advice, and make the best online friends. Yes it had much controversy when it was bought by a Russian company, I can point you to a podcast if you want more detail on that, and certainly there was drama sometimes, but I would give a lot to just talk to my friends as a group that way again and really know each other deeply that way again, and other than the odd very ignorable ad, you weren't forced to be part of an algorithm or AI horseshit or fake news or verified accounts or any of that garbage. You could buy a permanent account for 100 dollars for the added features, but that was basically started to keep the site running after it took off. It really was beautiful and helpful and loving and felt organic and true for that time.
Have you ever noticed how hard it is for novels or TV or any other fictional platform to include anything about smartphones or using social media? When it is mentioned it feels very awkward and forced into the narrative.
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“The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth — whether it’s scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based.”
“We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.”
— Jean-Luc PicardSome of the basic tenants of Star Trek society are inclusion and shared progress. Elitism and exclusion are how we got to the mess we find ourselves in.
A better lesson is responsibility for the "nerds." You all sold your talents and abilities to salespeople and conmen instead of seeing the value in yourself. Then, you got manipulated into building a dystopian technology that entraps the common people instead of liberating them.
They needed guidance and you gave them your insecurity instead. The evil desires the technology as it is does not have the intellect to manufacture it. That requires complicit "nerds."
wrote last edited by [email protected]Elitism and exclusion are how we got to the mess we find ourselves in.
And that's why I would not let Lemmy users run society. The userbase here is people who like the idea of left-populism, but hate the population.
