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Am I the only one who thinks social media has destroyed the spirit of the internet?

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    Give me back my ICQ and Prodigy Internet you damned Gen Z!

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    • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

      It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

      I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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      The Internet started going downhill around 2010, this is nothing new

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        so complaining that they aren't the first one to say this, doesn't mean that you're complaining that they aren't the first to say this?

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        My, you do this a lot. Just invent new things. You said I said he shouldn't talk about it. Which I didn't remotely say at all. Now you're changing the meaning a second time huh? See what I meant about needing more steps? Already way past B it seems.

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        • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

          The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

          It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

          I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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          Community has been replaced by the trough.

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            My, you do this a lot. Just invent new things. You said I said he shouldn't talk about it. Which I didn't remotely say at all. Now you're changing the meaning a second time huh? See what I meant about needing more steps? Already way past B it seems.

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            i still don't follow you,

            how is it that you don't mean what your said. and assuming you meant what you said is wrong?

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              Community has been replaced by the trough.

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              Is that an Animal Farm quote?

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                Just out of curiosity, what would the Star Trek equivalent be outside of eurocentric experience?

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                Dragon Ball

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                • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                  The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                  It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                  I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                  In its Facebook and onward phase, yes I agree. Prior to that we had this wonderful site called Livejournal where you could privately blog to a select group of friends, and it was the absolute best way to brain dump, have people give you real advice, and make the best online friends. Yes it had much controversy when it was bought by a Russian company, I can point you to a podcast if you want more detail on that, and certainly there was drama sometimes, but I would give a lot to just talk to my friends as a group that way again and really know each other deeply that way again, and other than the odd very ignorable ad, you weren't forced to be part of an algorithm or AI horseshit or fake news or verified accounts or any of that garbage. You could buy a permanent account for 100 dollars for the added features, but that was basically started to keep the site running after it took off. It really was beautiful and helpful and loving and felt organic and true for that time.

                  Have you ever noticed how hard it is for novels or TV or any other fictional platform to include anything about smartphones or using social media? When it is mentioned it feels very awkward and forced into the narrative.

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                    “The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth — whether it’s scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based.”

                    “We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.”
                    — Jean-Luc Picard

                    Some of the basic tenants of Star Trek society are inclusion and shared progress. Elitism and exclusion are how we got to the mess we find ourselves in.

                    A better lesson is responsibility for the "nerds." You all sold your talents and abilities to salespeople and conmen instead of seeing the value in yourself. Then, you got manipulated into building a dystopian technology that entraps the common people instead of liberating them.

                    They needed guidance and you gave them your insecurity instead. The evil desires the technology as it is does not have the intellect to manufacture it. That requires complicit "nerds."

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                    Elitism and exclusion are how we got to the mess we find ourselves in.

                    And that's why I would not let Lemmy users run society. The userbase here is people who like the idea of left-populism, but hate the population.

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                    • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                      It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                      I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                      We could go back to the old internet any time we wanted, but people have been supping on the convenience aspect of having everything bundled into easy-to-digest "apps" that they would have to deprogram themselves first and come to understand that finding shit on the old internet used to take work. Small wonder that people hear that X (formerly Twitter) is going to be the "everything app" and like the idea of that. I personally find it horrifying how many people are glued to social media, and meanwhile I've never had a Facebook account, never had Twitter, never had TikTok, and I'm still doing just fine.

                      We let corporations get their sticky fingers on everything, so now everything has to be profitable or it isn't worth anybody's time. Even YouTube videos are now all about maximizing engagement, interaction, and viewer retention so that the uploader can collect a paycheck from Google. I don't give a fuck about whatever excuses they use to justify it, people still made great quality content before YouTube partnered with people for revenue sharing.

                      If TOR wasn't so godawfully slow, I'd be using TOR and visiting .onion sites for everything. It perfectly recreates that "old internet" feeling of web design that has function over form and small communities built around niche topics.

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                        The small communities are still there, you just don't visit them because you are on social media (like lemmy). Forums are still there. IRC is still there. Hell, even BBS and Usenet is still there if you really want to go that way.

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                        What is UseNet ?

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                        • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                          The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                          It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                          I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                          Social media is the front of the house.

                          What destroyed the internet are the cabal of Corporations monetizing every interaction and directing flows from the back of the house.

                          Unfettered Capitalism killed the internet experience.

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                          • embed_me@programming.devE [email protected]

                            Star Wars or Star Trek.

                            This is what the sociologists call "eurocentrism"

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                            We’ll also welcome our Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica brethren, obviously 😄

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                            • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                              The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                              It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                              I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                              You are not

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                              • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                                It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                                I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                                I just gotta say, I felt that switch too around that time. 2016-2019ish. Something about how Instagram moved away from encouraging posts of your life to family//friends for pushing an influencer/celebrity sphere. People stopped sharing their lives, ordinary content wasn’t ranked as high. And then the other social platforms copied it

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                                  Thank you for sharing. It's painful to realize in hindsight that those websites were peak internet.

                                  They lack polish, but they were all a labour of love. No enshittification, no selling things, no corporate influence, no shit posting.

                                  Everything had a purpose, every post took effort, and it was all about sharing experiences or knowledge.

                                  I really miss that internet.

                                  EDIT: correcting gibberish 🤭

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                                  Content > design

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                                    The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                                    It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                                    I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                                    Mostly because it brought boomers into the Internet and they the proceeded to infest the rest of it.

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                                      Mostly because it brought boomers into the Internet and they the proceeded to infest the rest of it.

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                                      Mostly because billionaires are using it for unfettered propaganda which everyone is vulnerable to not just older people

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                                        We could go back to the old internet any time we wanted, but people have been supping on the convenience aspect of having everything bundled into easy-to-digest "apps" that they would have to deprogram themselves first and come to understand that finding shit on the old internet used to take work. Small wonder that people hear that X (formerly Twitter) is going to be the "everything app" and like the idea of that. I personally find it horrifying how many people are glued to social media, and meanwhile I've never had a Facebook account, never had Twitter, never had TikTok, and I'm still doing just fine.

                                        We let corporations get their sticky fingers on everything, so now everything has to be profitable or it isn't worth anybody's time. Even YouTube videos are now all about maximizing engagement, interaction, and viewer retention so that the uploader can collect a paycheck from Google. I don't give a fuck about whatever excuses they use to justify it, people still made great quality content before YouTube partnered with people for revenue sharing.

                                        If TOR wasn't so godawfully slow, I'd be using TOR and visiting .onion sites for everything. It perfectly recreates that "old internet" feeling of web design that has function over form and small communities built around niche topics.

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                                        What would speed up Tor?

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                                          Mostly because it brought boomers into the Internet and they the proceeded to infest the rest of it.

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                                          Listen young man... Boomers INVENTED the original internet!

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