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Am I the only one who thinks social media has destroyed the spirit of the internet?

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  • C [email protected]

    The old internet was just an intermediate stage between the standardised internet, and before the internet when you had to find a clear channel through the ionosphere. Congratulations, however old you are, you've lived long enough to be bitter that the world has changed.

    Now if we're talking about the specific way it's developed with a new generation of robber barons controlling everything, obviously few here will disagree.

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    Forums are dead, replaced by unsearchable fb and discord and searchable reddit.
    Discord being completely unsuitable and other two being propaganda platforms and most users use them to farm e-fame.

    And nobody agrees to drop them for any reason either. A few years back entire fb sized sites were dropped and replaced over the smallest of infractions.

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    • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

      It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

      I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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      social media has destroyed the spirit of the internet?

      I’ve known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I’m back in the early spirit of the internet.

      I mean, Lemmy is social media. You might dislike centralized social media or something, but...

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      • C [email protected]

        I fucking hate anyone on the internet who starts with "am I the only one..." Its so tired, lazy, lacks creativity, and has a touch of narcissism or inability to be self-aware.

        But this!

        Holy shit. For anyone to truly think they are the only ones to have considered social media to be such a bad thing with 7-8 billion of us and social media for 20 fucking years.

        Absolute garbage. Get a mirror and do some reflection OP. Holy fucking shit.

        And for the record.... NOBODY is the only one for anything. Pick a different I tro for once. Holy god damned shit.

        I can only hope some twatwaffle responds to me merely saying "This."

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        Am I the only who who thinks they are overreacting a little?

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        • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

          The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

          It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

          I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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          Yeah its definitely just you...

          https://medium.com/@darianoneil/because-the-internet-how-social-media-ruined-music-ec2022282aa4

          https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/18tm3i8/cmv_social_media_is_destroying_western_society/

          https://listverse.com/2021/05/24/top-10-ways-social-media-is-ruining-the-world/

          https://www.bernsteinresearch.com/CMSObjectBR/Files/Recruiting/Global Internet - Has TikTok Ruined The Internet.pdf

          https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/01/long-youtube-videos-tiktok/677130/

          https://knowyourbest.com/social-media-ruined-society/

          https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_social_media_brings_out_the_worst_in_us

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          • W [email protected]

            The idea (from around 2010ish) was that every platform is an app and every app is everything. A company buys up other smaller companies until you have a payment system, a marketplace, a VOIP system, advertising, job posting boards, 4 different waya to share media, etc. etc.

            You're describing AOL. This is nothing new. And just as AOL failed and faded, so will the social media giants.

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            I understand what you're saying, but AOL had the opposite problem. The internet at that time was hard to use in general, so it was more about trying to provide enough of anything to get commercial viability for regular people. At one point, AOL was 30% of the entire internet. Seriously, it hosted almost a third of everything online. The alternatives were CompuServe or Prodigy or simply not being online at all. But you paid for it up front as an ISP. AOL didn't provide anything for free up front.

            The Web 2.0 walled garden approach is about preventing you from wandering out onto the wide open spaces of the rest of the internet out there and not seeing the content curated to make the platform provider money. And making the 10% of daily internet content composed of idiotic FB comments and posts seem like it's worth all your time when you can easily use one of 5 or 6 search engines to find alternative content. Making staying in the garden so cost effective and frictionless that even using a search engine seems "hard" to do.

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            • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

              The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

              It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

              I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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              It's not 2017-18 social media, friend. It's just late state capitalism.

              And the lion's share of it can be traced to increasing real estate and rent prices.

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              • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                It's not social media that did it. It's monopolistic, unregulated, greedy, giant tech corporations that made the internet shitty.

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                • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                  I also like zombocom

                  https://zombo.com/

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                  Shoutout for https://www.marginalia.nu/ too!

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                  • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                    It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                    I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                    Does anybody not think that?

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                    • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                      It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                      I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                      You don't consider Lemmy to be social media?

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                      • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                        The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                        It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                        I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                        Nah. Just corpos.

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                          You want to walk us through that one Magellan because I'm curious to see how you're gonna get from A to Z.

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                          do you need a detailed tutorial to get from A to B?

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                            do you need a detailed tutorial to get from A to B?

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                            Nah, you're going to need way more steps than that.

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                            • realcalliopa@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                              The emergence of social media has destroyed all the small communities to standardize communication and information.

                              It's a bit of a digital version of rural exodus. And since 2017/2018, I've noticed that everything that, in my opinion, represented the internet has disappeared.

                              I've known Lemmy for a few hours and I feel like I'm back in the early spirit of the internet.

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                              Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.

                              Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.

                              But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.

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                              • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.

                                Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.

                                But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.

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                                John Munch

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                                  Yeah its definitely just you...

                                  https://medium.com/@darianoneil/because-the-internet-how-social-media-ruined-music-ec2022282aa4

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/18tm3i8/cmv_social_media_is_destroying_western_society/

                                  https://listverse.com/2021/05/24/top-10-ways-social-media-is-ruining-the-world/

                                  https://www.bernsteinresearch.com/CMSObjectBR/Files/Recruiting/Global Internet - Has TikTok Ruined The Internet.pdf

                                  https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/01/long-youtube-videos-tiktok/677130/

                                  https://knowyourbest.com/social-media-ruined-society/

                                  https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_social_media_brings_out_the_worst_in_us

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                                  If it's just the op, then where did all these articles come from!? Social media for ants!?

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                                    My nickname back in high school.

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                                    • kissaki@feddit.orgK [email protected]

                                      You don't consider Lemmy to be social media?

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                                      For me, "Social Media(tm)" requires algorithm based media to be delivered to you without your input and heavy advertisement model attached that introduces corptate bias.

                                      Lemmy is more like a fancy forum. Not quite the same as old bbs forums, but still better then twitter, facebook and whatever the hell reddit is becoming.

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                                      • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                        Only a fool or a 12 year old would think otherwise. Back in the late ‘90’s, the web had a great sense of community. On forums, IRC, places like Cybertown, etc. You had smaller communities where you could reasonably know most users. They had a human scale; like a friendly neighbourhood.

                                        Modern social media is definitely terrible. It happened because we were too welcoming. Back in those days, the web was a nerd domain. We all shared the same sort of interests and optimism for the future of the web. You had to BE a nerd to get online. To WANT to be online.

                                        But now that it’s too easy for everyone to get on, the idiots have taken over. We really should kick everyone off the web who can’t name at least three characters from either Star Wars or Star Trek.

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                                        Star Wars or Star Trek.

                                        This is what the sociologists call "eurocentrism"

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                                          Nah, you're going to need way more steps than that.

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                                          [reaching across the fourth wall]
                                          are you just trolling?

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