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Never get into the details, that’s where the devil is.
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The only thing tolerance cannot tolerate is intolerance…
…I think it is morally sound to remove someone from society if that someone is an intolerant, fascist, greedy bigot. What constitutes as “remove” is contingent on how intolerant, fascist, and greedy the subject has exhibited themselves to be.
…murder is OK, in some scenarios.
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"I am a socialist" vs "We need to round up anyone with glasses and kill them because they are bourgeoisie."
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The only thing tolerance cannot tolerate is intolerance…
…I think it is morally sound to remove someone from society if that someone is an intolerant, fascist, greedy bigot. What constitutes as “remove” is contingent on how intolerant, fascist, and greedy the subject has exhibited themselves to be.
…murder is OK, in some scenarios.
You misunderstand the point of this paradox. By default you become intolerant when you start "removing" people. it is explicitly not a justification for whatever action you claim moral superiority on.
Since almost every political decision will affect at least some fraction of society negatively (even if it would ethically be for the greater good), you can carelessly throw this around to eliminate any opponents for this arbitrary tolerance reason.
The only way to make sure the "removal" is fair, as a society absolutely needs these tools to function, is to clearly outline the case when it needs to happen and bring the barrier such that those capable of improvement do not get ostracized into further radicalization. And that barrier needs to be significant.You bring up "fascist", at which line does it happen? Genocide execution, support, inaction, Swastika wearing, illegal membership, legal membership of ultra radical parties, support of conservative oligarchs? What is greedy? Robbery, theft, tax evasion, corruption, cheating with the girlfriend of a friend? What is bigotry? You get the idea.
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"I am a socialist" vs "We need to round up anyone with glasses and kill them because they are bourgeoisie."
Yes. Socialism is killing people with glasses.
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Yes. Socialism is killing people with glasses.
It's a reference to the Khmer Rouge Genocide. This included people being killed for wearing glasses, speaking a foreign language, or anything else which indicated they were an intellectual.
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Never get into the details, that’s where the devil is.
Also the suggesting ways the world could be better that i haven't already done. Which is basically calling me an asshole and giving me more work.
This is why i try to be the most dirtbaggy disingenuous asshole i can at all times; that's me asking to be loved, and it genuinely works.
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You misunderstand the point of this paradox. By default you become intolerant when you start "removing" people. it is explicitly not a justification for whatever action you claim moral superiority on.
Since almost every political decision will affect at least some fraction of society negatively (even if it would ethically be for the greater good), you can carelessly throw this around to eliminate any opponents for this arbitrary tolerance reason.
The only way to make sure the "removal" is fair, as a society absolutely needs these tools to function, is to clearly outline the case when it needs to happen and bring the barrier such that those capable of improvement do not get ostracized into further radicalization. And that barrier needs to be significant.You bring up "fascist", at which line does it happen? Genocide execution, support, inaction, Swastika wearing, illegal membership, legal membership of ultra radical parties, support of conservative oligarchs? What is greedy? Robbery, theft, tax evasion, corruption, cheating with the girlfriend of a friend? What is bigotry? You get the idea.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This guy gets it!