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How would you propose we actually combat climate change?

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    Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

    I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

    Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

    I know yall will have fun with this!

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    Vote.

    Edit: to be clear, vote in every election you have access to. Local voting and primaries are just important. Voting even if you don’t like any of the options is still important.

    If you don’t vote then you’re part of the problem.

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    • B [email protected]

      Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

      I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

      Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

      I know yall will have fun with this!

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      Tax billionaires out of existence, ban fossil fuels, invest in carbon capture, ban corporate greed, switch all solutions to the slightly more expensive, green alternative

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      • B [email protected]

        Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

        I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

        Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

        I know yall will have fun with this!

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        Ban planned obsolescence and make a rigorous standard that any new device is designed repairable, reliable and long lasting enough to last at least 10 years if treated right, 20+ years for vehicles and machinery..

        This whole 'you gotta get a new thing every year' era causes sooo much unnecessary waste and pollution ☹️

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        • B [email protected]

          Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

          I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

          Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

          I know yall will have fun with this!

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          Locally with your community. None of these governments are prepared to bite the corporate tit that feeds them.

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          • B [email protected]

            Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

            I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

            Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

            I know yall will have fun with this!

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            Do it like China, handle it, the hard but effective way.

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              Aren’t we at the point of no return?

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              Passed it a while ago. That doesn't mean we can't slow down.

              Humanity will evolve to deal with the changes, maybe. Maybe not.

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              • B [email protected]

                Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                I know yall will have fun with this!

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                Adopt. Don't make new people. Take in people who have been abandoned. My father had the same idea in the 1970s — I suppose I should be fortunate my mother overruled him on that one. But he had the idea almost 50 years ago, for similar reasons.

                And apply a similar philosophy to the rest of your life. We all know the word recycle. And I have been a proponent of recycling for over 30 years. I've heard it doesn't help. I've heard some municipalities take it all to the same place. I don't care. I still do it. But I also remember when there were three words. The original slogan went "Reduce. Reuse. Recycle." Many people forgot the first two. You can reuse and repurpose a lot of things. But you should also reduce consumption as well. Eat less processed food. Stick to protein — plant and animal (unless you're a vegetarian/vegan obviously). Stick to the outside of the grocery store (produce, dairy, deli, meat). Bakery is nice for an occasional treat, but find out what they make in-house and not ship in frozen.

                I don't think I'm doing enough on my own. I also don't have illusions I'll convince many others. I'm not really trying to. I'm not trying to save the world, just survive it.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                  I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                  Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                  I know yall will have fun with this!

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                  Well if we start down the Billionaire list, we can drop half of all emissions after just a few thousand names.

                  But the actual solution is moon base manufacturing solar reflectors and having orbital platforms beam microwave energy down to the planet.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                    I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                    Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                    I know yall will have fun with this!

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                    Biggest problem is that only about 20% of the population of our planet is trying to make a difference and the rest are too poor to care and the 1% are busy building bunkers with the money they stole from the once middle class that are now too poor to do anything.

                    My answer isn't to tax the rich, it's to get rid of them and invest all that money into green tech, funding reforestation, improving EVs, that's just of the top of my head.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                      I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                      Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                      I know yall will have fun with this!

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                      But it's time to disrupt 99% of life.

                      Survey humanity, produce an agreed on level of technology and lifestyle.

                      We probably need to limit ourselves to housing, food, internet, and safety/defense for everyone and not much else - then slow all industries based on HOW people want to live.

                      So getting rid of things like, plastic toys, gizmos, extravagances. Phones wouldn't be updated as often. People would only be able to update their tech if they could meaningfully show it was necessary.

                      Lots of technology companies would be folded. Lots of industries would be nationalised and folded. International tourism would be greatly restricted. All the stuff we don't need basically.

                      People would be mostly employed in the basics: Housing, food, internet. Too far beyond that and you'd have to rely on local people/groups/makers/repair companies.

                      So massive degrowth, nationalization, and restrictions/regulations to the market.

                      Most of all, corporations would no longer count as people. In fact society should have to rely on person to person contracting. I don't really think corporations should exist becuase they become Zombies/Golems that do a lot of destructive things.

                      Basically degrowth, and restructuring society around degrowth.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                        I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                        Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                        I know yall will have fun with this!

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                        dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                        This is ridiculous, because the problem inherently requires cooperative change, and as we've seen people will throw shitfits over things as small as plastic straws.

                        A big thing would be to start switching from ever expanding auto infrastructure to public transit systems where possible.

                        1. Fewer vehicles that transport more people
                        2. Can use the space that is currently occupied for parking cars better

                        Another big thing requires changing our diets. Some types of food are more resource intensive than others, but also we ship food all over the planet and the resources for transport also contributes. Eating food that is in season on your continent would make a big difference.

                        The last thing is maybe the least obvious to regular people, but maybe we don't need to build that data center yet if we can't power it without fossil fuel. We need to entirely stop expanding energy usage until we've switched over entirely to sustainables.

                        In summary, basically everything that needs to happen is going to affect regular people, and they're going to have to get over it, or we're going to make the planet completely unlivable.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                          I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                          Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                          I know yall will have fun with this!

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                          attack the capitalist system.

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                            Aren’t we at the point of no return?

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                            It's not an on/off switch. Everything we can do will lessen the impact even if it can't be stopped.

                            But as others mention, real impact comes from governments and international cooperation, not individual actions. Hence why voting is so important.

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                            • B [email protected]

                              Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                              I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                              Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                              I know yall will have fun with this!

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                              I don't think there's any hope of addressing climate change as long as Europe and the USA adhere to a capitalist economic system.

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                                Passed it a while ago. That doesn't mean we can't slow down.

                                Humanity will evolve to deal with the changes, maybe. Maybe not.

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                                Honestly, if capitalism stopped tomorrow, and we all did community planting. Were restricted on car usage, and did carbon capture techniques that were proven to work.... All en mass, globally, I suspect we could change things.

                                The problem is Capitalism and freemarket "progress". The endless carbon fuelled march to no where (in the name of money). A lot could be done without that humming away like nothing is wrong, but politicians want to protect Free Market Capitalism and aren't laying down reasonable restrictions.

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                                  I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                                  Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                                  I know yall will have fun with this!

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                                  Shift away from consumerism and go back to a more local economy. Yes, that's going to be very bad for the western world's way of life. I forfeit my extra points because there's no way to change without some disruption.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                                    I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                                    Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                                    I know yall will have fun with this!

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                                    We would have to go all-in on a climate focused economy and lifestyle, invest heavily on clean energy, technology and degrowth. Outlaw anti-climate lobbying of any kind, and hunt the billionaires for sport

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                                      Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                                      I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                                      Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                                      I know yall will have fun with this!

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                                      In my opinion it is not possible to fight climate change while maintaining the same standards of life that we have now. Even if we are going to try, this will probably not be followed by many states with big population, so probably its not gonna work.
                                      From what I see, everyone is fighting climate change today by posting stuff on their social medias but when it comes to change habits, its another story.

                                      Anyway, my idea is that we don't have to ban things like cars and airplanes but we can use them more efficiently. We can repair more and buy less. Do we really need to change a car after 100.000 km?
                                      In my country, If you live in a big city you can use public transport most of the time, so why we don't start to connect well also the small places?

                                      Do we really need to buy fruits and vegetables that comes from other continents and needs to be chemically treated, transported, stocked and consequently generates pollution?

                                      In the consumer technology Sector people usually changes their computers and phones every 3-5 years even if the hardware is still working well. The software is usually becoming more heavier over the years without adding real features (See Meta's apps). We must accept that this is not compatible with fighting climate change because we are producing too much waste that is avoidable together with massive exploitation of resources. The majority of users are not educated to understand how our technology works at its most basic level, I think that we may start from here.

                                      Maybe we cannot erase billionaires but we can stop adulating or hating them and giving them unnecessary notoriety.

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let's ignore that)

                                        I dont think its as simple as "tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars" because thats not realistic.

                                        Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

                                        I know yall will have fun with this!

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                                        It's not everything obviously, but mandate that all people who can do their job from home must do their job from home. This will take a bite out of cars and improve general human morale.

                                        Eliminate carbon trading programs and just set hard limits. Went over your allocation of carbon? Guess you're done for the quarter.

                                        Eliminate LLCs. Bring on the accountability.

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                                          Aren’t we at the point of no return?

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                                          This is extremely important: we are not at the point of no return.

                                          Climate change can be stopped, even now. It will take lots of work, but it's possible.

                                          ClimateAdam, who has a PhD in climate science from Oxford, made a video about this. It's 5 years old, but he's still making videos with similar points today. It's my understanding this is still the predominant view amongst climate scientists. The main reason I think this is that there aren't many calling for geoengineering, which if we were at the point of no return would be something we'd have to explore.

                                          The reason this is so important is because as climate change denial becomes more and more infeasible, it will get replaced primarily with climate change defeatism. The sooner we start pushing back on this, the better.

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