What's the worst change made in a movie adaptation of a book?
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The Navidson Record
As a fellow HoL fan, dig your response.
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This is going to sound super nitpicky but even the first time I saw it, the modern body, ahistorical Aimpoints seen throughout the entire movie bothered me. It's only because they are so unavoidably prominent and because the rest of the movie's props are so well done that they stick out.
Aimpoints?
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She's Paul's everything (and trying to keep her alive for as long as possible is the main reason he does anything in Messiah, basically) and mostly a supporting character in the books, and there's nothing wrong with that... but Zendaya is a star and the West would've crucified Denis if he just let Chani be Chani. We both know it, that's the core of the disagreement in this comment section, lol. Heretics and Chapterhouse have fantastic female protagonists, but I doubt we'll get there, sadly.
Is this “the west” here in the room with us?
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Is this “the west” here in the room with us?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Unless Lemmings suddenly became majority Pakistani/Maori/Persian/Nigerian/Dagestani/Indonesian/Algerian/etc., ofc!
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I read the books and liked the TV version. They were just different things. I am not sure I'd even enjoy a very faithful TV adaptation.
Well it got canceled due to poor viewership so they failed and made it even less likely a fair adaptation ever gets made. Everybody loses.
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I liked that movie. I also watched it while I was on a plane from Cleveland to Hawaii with nothing to do though so maybe it was like a stockholm syndrome thing.
Taken on its own merit, the movie is fine I suppose as a dumb summer action flick. I actually really like Penelepe Cruz in this. If you're a fan of the book it's based on, this movie disappointed you. The movie does a mediocre job of summarizing a representative sample of the book's plot and goings on. To be fair, the book has a complicated and multi-threaded plot which might survive intact as a miniseries but not in a single film.
Going back and watching it now...I've gotten out of movies. Hollywood has lost my attention at some point in the last ten years, and watching Sahara today reminds me of the time I used to like movies.
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I realized there was trouble when the producers were being interviewed and stated they had a hard time finding an entry point to the universe and I was like "Bitch, FIRST LINE - 'The man in black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed.'"
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's always a treat realizing that you like a piece of fiction much more than the director/producer making an adaptation of it. I'm glad I didn't bother with that film.
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I don't know if it'll be better but there is an Eragon series in development for Disney+
And then some. It was mostly an ugly film that didn't portray Alagaesia in any way that I had imagined. About the only thing I liked about it was the design of Saphira.
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It's always a treat realizing that you like a piece of fiction much more than the director/producer making an adaptation of it. I'm glad I didn't bother with that film.
They somehow thought Jake was the star?
Here's hoping the next adaptation is better.
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Dune.
Turning the Bene Gesserit power of Voice into some weird gun was fucking stupid.
Edit to add: first film adaptation from the 80s. The latest movies have been good.
Don't actually remember that scene, refresh my memory please?
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The movie version of A Clockwork Orange was based on the American version of the book, which left out the entire last chapter. In that chapter, at 18 years old Alex pretty suddenly grows out of his violent and criminal ways and wants to start a family. Some say this ending is more optimistic but I actually think it's darker, because it shows that any normal person you meet might've at some point been a wanton brute reveling in the chaos and pain they so arbitrarily inflicted. And that they can just move on and start living like a normal person.
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Aimpoints?
wrote last edited by [email protected]The red dots used on almost all of the Delta Force guns.
That style of red dot didn't exist until a few years later. At the time it should have been the equally distinct looking "long tube" Aimpoints.
Again, I know it is super nitpicky, but they are so prominent and visible especially with those red lenses throughout the movie. They are only a few years wrong, but it's like if a WW1 movie was full of Thompson submachineguns.
The BDH movie otherwise does a lot of great prop and costume details. Not flawless, but the other inaccuracies are much less noticeable.
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Dune.
Turning the Bene Gesserit power of Voice into some weird gun was fucking stupid.
Edit to add: first film adaptation from the 80s. The latest movies have been good.
I assume you mean the 1984 version?
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She's Paul's everything (and trying to keep her alive for as long as possible is the main reason he does anything in Messiah, basically) and mostly a supporting character in the books, and there's nothing wrong with that... but Zendaya is a star and the West would've crucified Denis if he just let Chani be Chani. We both know it, that's the core of the disagreement in this comment section, lol. Heretics and Chapterhouse have fantastic female protagonists, but I doubt we'll get there, sadly.
wrote last edited by [email protected]She's Paul's everything
Literally her only trait that I can remember.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're upset that he improved Chani? Or do you just prefer 1 dimensional women characters who are defined entirely by their man?
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As a fellow HoL fan, dig your response.
Someone got the reference!
There's dozens of us!
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The Dark Tower. Everything. An 8 book series smashed into 1 terrible movie. Who ever green lit that should be fired.
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She's Paul's everything
Literally her only trait that I can remember.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're upset that he improved Chani? Or do you just prefer 1 dimensional women characters who are defined entirely by their man?
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's not an improvement, not at all. Chani in the books is someone I can picture becoming the muse and pillar of a complex man burdened with knowledge and duty (which is narratively necessary in both Dune and Messiah!). Lippy, immature, irrationally rebellious and feisty Zendaya's Chani is not that. Again, many books, including Herbert's own later in the series, have female protagonists who are not "1 dimensional" (although none as shallow and silly as the girl boss Chani of Denis, who certainly isn't 1 dimensional, lol
) and are fantastic. And upset is a big word, more like "disappointed and dissatisfied", but money follows audiences so I understand. 
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It's not an improvement, not at all. Chani in the books is someone I can picture becoming the muse and pillar of a complex man burdened with knowledge and duty (which is narratively necessary in both Dune and Messiah!). Lippy, immature, irrationally rebellious and feisty Zendaya's Chani is not that. Again, many books, including Herbert's own later in the series, have female protagonists who are not "1 dimensional" (although none as shallow and silly as the girl boss Chani of Denis, who certainly isn't 1 dimensional, lol
) and are fantastic. And upset is a big word, more like "disappointed and dissatisfied", but money follows audiences so I understand. wrote last edited by [email protected]Lippy?
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Lippy?
Like yappy, but with a disrespectful attitude for no reason.
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Matilda. They made them y*nks
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