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What's the worst change made in a movie adaptation of a book?

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    Dune.

    Turning the Bene Gesserit power of Voice into some weird gun was fucking stupid.

    Edit to add: first film adaptation from the 80s. The latest movies have been good.

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    I assume you mean the 1984 version?

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      She's Paul's everything (and trying to keep her alive for as long as possible is the main reason he does anything in Messiah, basically) and mostly a supporting character in the books, and there's nothing wrong with that... but Zendaya is a star and the West would've crucified Denis if he just let Chani be Chani. We both know it, that's the core of the disagreement in this comment section, lol. Heretics and Chapterhouse have fantastic female protagonists, but I doubt we'll get there, sadly.

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      She's Paul's everything

      Literally her only trait that I can remember.

      If I'm understanding you correctly, you're upset that he improved Chani? Or do you just prefer 1 dimensional women characters who are defined entirely by their man?

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        As a fellow HoL fan, dig your response.

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        Someone got the reference!

        There's dozens of us!

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          The Dark Tower. Everything. An 8 book series smashed into 1 terrible movie. Who ever green lit that should be fired.

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            She's Paul's everything

            Literally her only trait that I can remember.

            If I'm understanding you correctly, you're upset that he improved Chani? Or do you just prefer 1 dimensional women characters who are defined entirely by their man?

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            It's not an improvement, not at all. Chani in the books is someone I can picture becoming the muse and pillar of a complex man burdened with knowledge and duty (which is narratively necessary in both Dune and Messiah!). Lippy, immature, irrationally rebellious and feisty Zendaya's Chani is not that. Again, many books, including Herbert's own later in the series, have female protagonists who are not "1 dimensional" (although none as shallow and silly as the girl boss Chani of Denis, who certainly isn't 1 dimensional, lol 🙄) and are fantastic. And upset is a big word, more like "disappointed and dissatisfied", but money follows audiences so I understand. 🤷

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              It's not an improvement, not at all. Chani in the books is someone I can picture becoming the muse and pillar of a complex man burdened with knowledge and duty (which is narratively necessary in both Dune and Messiah!). Lippy, immature, irrationally rebellious and feisty Zendaya's Chani is not that. Again, many books, including Herbert's own later in the series, have female protagonists who are not "1 dimensional" (although none as shallow and silly as the girl boss Chani of Denis, who certainly isn't 1 dimensional, lol 🙄) and are fantastic. And upset is a big word, more like "disappointed and dissatisfied", but money follows audiences so I understand. 🤷

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              Lippy? 😬

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                Lippy? 😬

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                Like yappy, but with a disrespectful attitude for no reason. 😅

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                  Matilda. They made them y*nks 🤢🤮

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                    Well it got canceled due to poor viewership so they failed and made it even less likely a fair adaptation ever gets made. Everybody loses.

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                    True enough. I do not like their Tolkien fantasy series, it's clunky in some way, or the actors are not right, something is off. WOT, I quite liked most of the casting, loved the sets and landscapes and costuming and took the edits in stride, thought of it as an "inspired by".

                    My hope would be an animated series.

                    And as a William Gibson fan, oh I am used to disappointment.

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                      I was surprised when I read heart of darkness, that, for me at least, the final gut-punch of the tale isn't a dying man thinking of the horror he had wrought and seen, but the protagonist getting back to the man's wife and lying to her, telling her his last thoughts were of her.
                      It isnt something that would have worked for Apocalypse Now, but I didn't expect such a short novel to hide a completely different ending mood. I still think about it, years later.

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                        WTF was that movie? Did they buy the rights to the title, but not the content?

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                        Ruined by Zionist propaganda

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                          Ready Player One. So much about the movie adaptation of this book infuriates me, but the fact they replaced Wargames with the Shining is a crime against humanity!!!

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                          The only thing I remember about that movie was thinking mecha Godzilla looked like shit. Then the one from Godzilla vs Kong took notes...

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                            The Lawnmower Man

                            In the book, an unassuming everyman stumbles upon the fact that a local landscaping company is actually a front for a demon who has an arrangement that involves making human sacrifices of those that discover his supernatural nature.

                            In the movie, a Cyber Virtual Reality 3D Battles ON 3D CYBERSPACE Stunning Effects 3D Internet Pierce Brosnan Warfare Nineties Futuristic VR Headset Technology BATTLE In 3D Mind Expanding Guns, and one of the characters is a man who has a lawnmower.

                            Edit: Shit, okay, I just read this on Wikipedia and nearly wet myself:

                            A feature film, The Lawnmower Man, starring Jeff Fahey and Pierce Brosnan, was released in 1992 by New Line Cinema. This film used an original screenplay entitled "CyberGod", borrowing only the title of the short story. The film concerns a scientist, Dr. Lawrence Angelo (Brosnan), who subjects mentally challenged Jobe Smith (Fahey) to virtual reality experiments which give him superhuman abilities. The film was originally titled Stephen King's The Lawnmower Man. King won a lawsuit to have his name removed from the film, stating in court documents that the film "bore no meaningful resemblance" to his story. King then won further damages in 1993 after his name was included in the home video release.

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                              Going over the wikipedia article as a refresher and I totally forgot about how he (author Richard Matheson) had some cool biological explanations for the vampirism.

                              From Wikipedia:

                              Neville additionally discovers that exposing vampires to direct sunlight or inflicting wide oxygen-exposing wounds causes the bacteria to switch from being anaerobic symbionts to aerobic parasites, rapidly consuming their hosts when exposed to air and thus giving them the appearance of instantly liquefying. However, he discovers the bacteria also produce resilient "body glue" that instantaneously seals blunt or narrow wounds, explaining how the vampires are bulletproof. Lastly, he deduces now that there are in fact two differently reacting types of vampires: conscious ones who are living with a worsening infection and undead ones who have died but been partly reanimated by the bacteria.

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                              Oh interesting. Does indeed sound different from the film. Might give it a read.

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                                Like yappy, but with a disrespectful attitude for no reason. 😅

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                                I'm familiar with the word... I just think it betrays a bit of misogyny. Probably not even consciously.

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                                  I, Robot.

                                  Asimov was explicitly trying to get away from the trope of "robots take over humanity". To be clear, the first short story that became I, Robot was published in 1940. "Robots take over humanity" was already an SF trope by then. Hollywood comes along more than half a century later and dives head first right back into that trope.

                                  Lt Cmdr Data is more what Asimov had it mind. In fact, Data's character has direct references to Asimov, like his positronic brain.

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                                  Asimov came up with the three laws of robotics.

                                  He then spent the rest of his life writing examples of how they don't work.

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                                    Dune.

                                    Turning the Bene Gesserit power of Voice into some weird gun was fucking stupid.

                                    Edit to add: first film adaptation from the 80s. The latest movies have been good.

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                                    and the rain at the end

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                                      True enough. I do not like their Tolkien fantasy series, it's clunky in some way, or the actors are not right, something is off. WOT, I quite liked most of the casting, loved the sets and landscapes and costuming and took the edits in stride, thought of it as an "inspired by".

                                      My hope would be an animated series.

                                      And as a William Gibson fan, oh I am used to disappointment.

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                                      And they did the right thing by calling it Rings of Power and treading new ground instead of warping old stories.

                                      That's what they should have done with WOT.

                                      "Another Turn of the Wheel" where we see a group of young people mentored by a grizzled Moridin(see where I am going here) after their village is raided by Trollocs that haven't been seen for 500 years.

                                      I would watch that even after seeing what they did to WOT.

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                                        I Am Legend

                                        The ending was completely and utterly different than the book, which destroyed the gut punch at the end of the book that was kind of the whole theme of the book.

                                        I don't even remember the book as a whole. But I remember the ending. Then they Hollywooded it and it was awful.

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                                          Dune.

                                          Turning the Bene Gesserit power of Voice into some weird gun was fucking stupid.

                                          Edit to add: first film adaptation from the 80s. The latest movies have been good.

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                                          As a Dune lover, I have a soft spot for the 1980s version. The thing I tell people before watching is, "this isn't Dune, this is a fever dream David Lynch had about the idea of Dune."

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