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For 73% of French people, the United States is no longer an ally of France

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    The other 27% must not read the news, eh?

    Even if you believe the US is an ally to whatever country you're from (outside of Russia, of course), he's proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable.

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      The other 27% must not read the news, eh?

      Even if you believe the US is an ally to whatever country you're from (outside of Russia, of course), he's proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable.

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      27% hoping the US is just going through a phase

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        China is more trustworthy than the US right now

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          Pssst, France... I'm telling ya, it should be 100%.

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            The French:

            Ever since those fuckers voted for the insane right wing populist lunatic, they are no longer a reliable ally!!

            Also the French

            Yay, Le Pen!

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              China is more trustworthy than the US right now

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              If they'd be willing renounce their claims to Taiwan and allow democracy in Hong Kong and Macau, maybe I could see that. Until then, same shit in more outwardly rational packaging.

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                It's okay France, most Americans feel the same way too

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                  27% hoping the US is just going through a phase

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                  That was an understandable reaction for 2016 to 2020. But not anymore.

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                    China is more trustworthy than the US right now

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                    The Chinese regime also lies through their teeth, but they are a known and rational actor.

                    A backstabbing, erratic „ally“ is worse of course.

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                      China is more trustworthy than the US right now

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                        That feeling has been reflected in recent polls here in the UK too and I think the US might be finally blowing it with its 'allies'.

                        I hope that the Trump administration can get all its core industries up and running because there is a big sense that the US empire is on its way out now. It was always bound to happen eventually because it always does but I was not expecting to see it unravel so fast and so soon.

                        Perhaps the US population can resolve (or dissolve) its internal divisions and conflict but I think it will take years and Europe has urgent problems that need tackling right away.

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                          That feeling has been reflected in recent polls here in the UK too and I think the US might be finally blowing it with its 'allies'.

                          I hope that the Trump administration can get all its core industries up and running because there is a big sense that the US empire is on its way out now. It was always bound to happen eventually because it always does but I was not expecting to see it unravel so fast and so soon.

                          Perhaps the US population can resolve (or dissolve) its internal divisions and conflict but I think it will take years and Europe has urgent problems that need tackling right away.

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                          ‘allies’

                          these single quotes are doing some heavy lifting!

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                            Actually, yes. Stability-loving nationalist autocrats vs. instability-loving nationalist autocrats.

                            Thankfully, the real democracies don't really need to choose one or the other, as long as we stick together.

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                              The French:

                              Ever since those fuckers voted for the insane right wing populist lunatic, they are no longer a reliable ally!!

                              Also the French

                              Yay, Le Pen!

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                              This is the only scrap of dignity I have left in my people, the fact that Russian propaganda just as well on them.

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                                I assumed we lost their support years ago. I thought we couldn't get more petty than "Freedom fries". I was way wrong.

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                                  250 year old friend thrown away for a 100 year old adversary.

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                                    The French:

                                    Ever since those fuckers voted for the insane right wing populist lunatic, they are no longer a reliable ally!!

                                    Also the French

                                    Yay, Le Pen!

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                                    Thats the 73%/23% split explained.

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                                      I know it's hard to accept it as an American. But here we are

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                                        That's crazy to me that America has changed so much that a nation they freed from Nazi control cannot consider the USA an ally any more because of the fascist ideology the trump administration is showing to the world. This all happened in like 2 months time. This is just the beginning and I don't see things getting better at all.

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                                          That was an understandable reaction for 2016 to 2020. But not anymore.

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                                          It still could be a phase, albeit a much longer one than originally hoped for. I'm not convinced that's the case but I think there's reason to have at least a sliver of hope that the US will turn the corner and return to something approaching sanity. That's not to say that the people of France are wrong in their perception though. For the foreseeable future all of Europe should default to assuming we'll be ambivalent at best when approaching matters that concern them.

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