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For 73% of French people, the United States is no longer an ally of France

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  • S [email protected]

    The other 27% must not read the news, eh?

    Even if you believe the US is an ally to whatever country you're from (outside of Russia, of course), he's proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable.

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    The other 27% are fascists too.

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      It's okay France, most Americans feel the same way too

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      Lol I was gonna say, I live here and I don't really feel like they're my ally at all.

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      • S [email protected]

        A small correction, France never left NATO completely. They left a lot of the joint command structures and stopped hosting NATO's HQ in Paris, but they never cancelled the treaty or anything like that

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        Yes. It is an important distinction. I should have been more clear.

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          Only? Probably for the remaining 27% it never was...

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            That's crazy to me that America has changed so much that a nation they freed from Nazi control cannot consider the USA an ally any more because of the fascist ideology the trump administration is showing to the world. This all happened in like 2 months time. This is just the beginning and I don't see things getting better at all.

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            What they are doing to Canada is just straight up absurd but it makes sense if you think of this as a Woke vs Non-woke war not capitalism vs communism or west vs east, Jon nails it as usual:

            Jon Stewart on Trump’s Heel Turn on Zelenskyy In Favor of Putin’s New World Order
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeUZI5RnYGg

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            • I [email protected]

              It’s a way higher number than that. Women, GSM, anyone not white, Muslims, disabled people, elderly people, children, students, immigrants, non-fluent English speakers, and of course, anyone outspoken against the regime.

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              You say anyone not white but I an pretty sure lotta non white folk voted for the cheeto man

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                Maybe France will end up liberating the North American continent once again. 😉

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                  Maybe France will end up liberating the North American continent once again. 😉

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                  You could find an area with an "oppressed" French minority, and start by stirring an uprising in there. Once the pot begins to boil, try adding some french commando forces in disguise.

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                    Maybe France will end up liberating the North American continent once again. 😉

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                    Louisiana is French.

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                    • barbarian@sh.itjust.worksB [email protected]

                      Make all the "France surrendered" jokes you want

                      It's so weird to me that France has been a military force that has oscillated between a force to be reckoned with and the most powerful land force in the world since the 17th century, but you lose one war to a blitzkrieg with an overconfident military leadership...

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                      the most powerful land force in the world since the 17th century

                      Franco-Prussian War with France being beaten in a bit over half a year....

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                        America has the right to find its own destiny. America needs dramatic change to adapt to an ever-changing world. If France no longer see us as their ally then so be it. The world keeps on turning.

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                          Make all the "France surrendered" jokes you want

                          It's so weird to me that France has been a military force that has oscillated between a force to be reckoned with and the most powerful land force in the world since the 17th century, but you lose one war to a blitzkrieg with an overconfident military leadership...

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                          How does the Foreign Legion fit into this? I honestly don't know much about how they're connected to France. But, what I do know about them is that they're badasses.

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                            I can’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to be an ally with the U.S. either.

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                            • I [email protected]

                              It’s a way higher number than that. Women, GSM, anyone not white, Muslims, disabled people, elderly people, children, students, immigrants, non-fluent English speakers, and of course, anyone outspoken against the regime.

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                              Lol lots of assumptions being made here.

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                              • V [email protected]

                                Thats the 73%/23% split explained.

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                                73%/23%

                                Someone can't maths!

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  America has the right to find its own destiny. America needs dramatic change to adapt to an ever-changing world. If France no longer see us as their ally then so be it. The world keeps on turning.

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                                  The way I see it America has not many allies left. Not sure whether having no friends in a global world is a good destiny.

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                                    If they'd be willing renounce their claims to Taiwan and allow democracy in Hong Kong and Macau, maybe I could see that. Until then, same shit in more outwardly rational packaging.

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                                    The US is no less imperialistic than China. At least China is stable and predictable.

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                                      America has the right to find its own destiny. America needs dramatic change to adapt to an ever-changing world. If France no longer see us as their ally then so be it. The world keeps on turning.

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                                      America's destiny is to ally itself with Russia, North Korea and other dictatorships? Good to know but I can't shake the feeling that you guys might want to spend some time thinking about what you're doing before you do it. Thinking is not as bad as media makes itnout to be. Some even say that it provides benefits.

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                                        America's destiny is to ally itself with Russia, North Korea and other dictatorships? Good to know but I can't shake the feeling that you guys might want to spend some time thinking about what you're doing before you do it. Thinking is not as bad as media makes itnout to be. Some even say that it provides benefits.

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                                        No one said we have to ally ourselves with dictatorships. France is one country in the world.

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                                          Louisiana is French.

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                                          La Louisiane*

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