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The 'strongman' Prime Minister who inspired Trump's playbook - but now finds his power crumbling

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      Interesting. The EU has frozen so much money intended for Hungary, yet it gets zero mention.

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        Interesting. The EU has frozen so much money intended for Hungary, yet it gets zero mention.

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        A big part of why Trump went full retard on Canada was that they declared the freedom convoy idiots domestic terrorists, which opened up anyone in the money pipeline that supported them to international asset freeze or seizure. Coincidentally a lot of that money came through right wing groups in the US that also funded US politicians and regressive activism.

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          Kudos to anyone finishing that article. While it summed up most of the situation pretty nicely, I have a few nits to pick.

          The biggest one is that the article sets Orbán up as a mastermind. While he is definitely waaaay more clever than his New World counterpart, he doesn't have his finger on the pulse and has never had Hungary's best interest at heart (or at least since 2010). The team does do a crazy amount of polling, but they also just use the old trick of fearmongering through media. Hungary is very EU-positive, so they have to work tooth and nail to make Brussels an outside enemy. During the Syrian humanitarian crisis he saw the opportunity to play the xenophobe card, but betting on fear of 'the other' is ruling 101. Anyhow, still better to think more of him than underestimate.

          Also, Magyar Péter is best defined as a tool. In like 99% of the meanings. Most of us wouldn't trust him as far as we can throw him. What worries me is that the meta isn't changing, at least on Hungarian reddit. Users or trolls downvote any topic that wants to discuss anything besides the best case scenario. This seems detrimental to risk management.

          The most probable solution is the grayest one. Tisza takes over to an extent, Fidesz is still locked in (economically, in the foundation), and we need to put aside personal political preferences just one more time. This way Fidesz loses the choke-hold of Europe, as Hungary becomes deadlocked with itself (as we tend to). Fico steps up as the Russian veto, or they find some heinous way to interfere through that horrid patriot party. I mean this is still one of the better outcomes. Anyhow, don't forget to hug your Eastern European today. They proabably need it.

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            Kudos to anyone finishing that article. While it summed up most of the situation pretty nicely, I have a few nits to pick.

            The biggest one is that the article sets Orbán up as a mastermind. While he is definitely waaaay more clever than his New World counterpart, he doesn't have his finger on the pulse and has never had Hungary's best interest at heart (or at least since 2010). The team does do a crazy amount of polling, but they also just use the old trick of fearmongering through media. Hungary is very EU-positive, so they have to work tooth and nail to make Brussels an outside enemy. During the Syrian humanitarian crisis he saw the opportunity to play the xenophobe card, but betting on fear of 'the other' is ruling 101. Anyhow, still better to think more of him than underestimate.

            Also, Magyar Péter is best defined as a tool. In like 99% of the meanings. Most of us wouldn't trust him as far as we can throw him. What worries me is that the meta isn't changing, at least on Hungarian reddit. Users or trolls downvote any topic that wants to discuss anything besides the best case scenario. This seems detrimental to risk management.

            The most probable solution is the grayest one. Tisza takes over to an extent, Fidesz is still locked in (economically, in the foundation), and we need to put aside personal political preferences just one more time. This way Fidesz loses the choke-hold of Europe, as Hungary becomes deadlocked with itself (as we tend to). Fico steps up as the Russian veto, or they find some heinous way to interfere through that horrid patriot party. I mean this is still one of the better outcomes. Anyhow, don't forget to hug your Eastern European today. They proabably need it.

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