Airline Demand Between Canada & United States Collapses, Down 70%+
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It appears that these countries now have some form of warning associated with travelling to the USA:
- Australia
- Belgium
- Canada
- Denmark
- Finland
- Germany
- Ireland
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- United Kingdom
Norway has also issued a travel warning for trans people going to the US
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It appears that these countries now have some form of warning associated with travelling to the USA:
- Australia
- Belgium
- Canada
- Denmark
- Finland
- Germany
- Ireland
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- United Kingdom
All US allies. Unbelievable.
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The US side is bleak industrial wasteland.
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It appears that these countries now have some form of warning associated with travelling to the USA:
- Australia
- Belgium
- Canada
- Denmark
- Finland
- Germany
- Ireland
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- United Kingdom
Source?
Canada does not seem to have any advisory.
https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories -
In the US, if you land, you must pass through immigration.
At least I'm not aware of any airports where there is an international terminal like you find elsewhere in the world. Ours require entry to the country even if you are connecting to another international flight.
Wait, really?
So you need a visa to transit through the US?
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All US allies. Unbelievable.
US allies? I don't see Russia on the list.
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The bad thing for the US is that its a lot of revenue to lose. This type of thing has knockon effects. America has a very large tourist hospitality sector.
Yes, it was promised but the people thinking it a good thing, who voted for it and are implementing it do not understand how the economy works.
On one hand, it is a lot of revenue lost. On the other, it's also a lot of resources freed up for Americans that would otherwise have been used by foreign tourists. As long as the supply remains the same and the demand drops, prices should get reduced as well. That's what people understand.
What they don't understand is that companies expect this to be temporary, and they'd rather have losses they can write off, rather than smaller profits that their investors will be upset about.
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I'm genuinely struggling to see where this is really a bad thing.
It depends on how much you value a stable economy.
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Wait, really?
So you need a visa to transit through the US?
Yes indeed. Everyone arriving goes through immigration, collects bags, clears customs; and only then may proceed to the exit, or recheck bags and go back through security to catch a connecting flight.
The only exception is if you originated at a pre-clearance airport and did the immigration stuff before departure. But that means you still need a visa. And it's only at a handful of airports in Canada, Ireland, UAE and the Caribbean.
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On one hand, it is a lot of revenue lost. On the other, it's also a lot of resources freed up for Americans that would otherwise have been used by foreign tourists. As long as the supply remains the same and the demand drops, prices should get reduced as well. That's what people understand.
What they don't understand is that companies expect this to be temporary, and they'd rather have losses they can write off, rather than smaller profits that their investors will be upset about.
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The international demand lost is well beyond what can be replaced with domestic demand. Tariffs are also going to keep prices high so even with a demand reduction that won't matter to a lot of the supply cost.
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The taxes are one thing but less profit and less demand=jobs being cut which has downstream effects. Any smart company doesn't expect this to be short. Being advised against travel is not something that gets turned around easily.
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What resources are Canadian tourists using that would otherwise go to Americans? I don’t feel deprived of flights to Ottawa…
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I'm genuinely struggling to see where this is really a bad thing.
It depends on how much you value a stable economy.
To his point, an unstable economyis also what they voted for. Some might have been too stupid to comprehend their actions, but it is exacy what they chose.
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The US side is bleak industrial wasteland.
Canadian side has so many tourist traps
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The girlfriend and I (both Canadian in Canada) were just planning a summer trip to Niagara Falls like 30 minutes ago. Neither of us have been. We were looking at flights and didn't realize we were looking at flights to Niagara Falls airport in the US. We were both like "Whoa. Nope!"
If this had been last year, we would have flown into either airport and visited both sides of the border. But there is not a chance in hell I'm crossing to the US side during this trip. I'm absolutely not taking a chance of wrecking my vacation, or weeks of my life, getting nabbed by some Nazi Ice Bro and shipped to a detention camp in Arizona.
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Why would I travel to hostile enemy country?
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If you think about it, these are government announcements, it's just over two months since the excrement started hitting the rotating equipment.
In that time a country needs to take note of the change in circumstances to its citizens, verify that it's happening systemically and not occasionally, formulate a response, approve the response, and then publish it.
Much of the border issues didn't appear to be visible until a month or so ago.
In other words, I think that this is lightening fast as diplomatic responses go.
Likely because these motions were put in place after the first Trump term.
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It appears that these countries now have some form of warning associated with travelling to the USA:
- Australia
- Belgium
- Canada
- Denmark
- Finland
- Germany
- Ireland
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- United Kingdom
realistically it's also dangerous to travel to the US if you're in the US
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The girlfriend and I (both Canadian in Canada) were just planning a summer trip to Niagara Falls like 30 minutes ago. Neither of us have been. We were looking at flights and didn't realize we were looking at flights to Niagara Falls airport in the US. We were both like "Whoa. Nope!"
If this had been last year, we would have flown into either airport and visited both sides of the border. But there is not a chance in hell I'm crossing to the US side during this trip. I'm absolutely not taking a chance of wrecking my vacation, or weeks of my life, getting nabbed by some Nazi Ice Bro and shipped to a detention camp in Arizona.
No please don’t come, and tell everyone, your friends or family who has plans to come to America to not come at least for 4 years.
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US allies? I don't see Russia on the list.
As a UK citizen, we know there's a difference between the government and the people. You definitely have a serious problem, but you've not been abandoned. We have issues with Trump and his cronies, not the people of America.
We might be a bit stumped on what we can actually do to help, but you're not alone.
