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how do I know that you guys are real and not bots?

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  • B [email protected]

    A bot can’t write “Disney’s Mickey Mouse, specifically the one depicted in the 2000’s cartoons still under copyright, fucking Donald Duck in his dussy”

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    wrote on last edited by
    #93

    sure they can.

    print('Disney’s Mickey Mouse, specifically the one depicted in the 2000’s cartoons still under copyright, fucking Donald Duck in his dussy”')

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    • M [email protected]

      That sounds like a horribly dystopian solution to a horribly dystopian problem.

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      #94

      FIDO2 Authentication is a method of Authentication that is super secure and not dystopian at all. I believe its collaborators around the world contributed to it.

      You can read about it via the FIDO alliance website.

      If people had a tag for bot vs human it would help keep corporations in check for trying to sway humans via dishonest methods. Like pretending to be human.

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      • iheartcheese@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

        Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except you

        sabata11792@ani.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #95

        Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except you

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        • E [email protected]

          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

          sabata11792@ani.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #96

          I haven't tried to profit from the interaction yet.

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          • E [email protected]

            How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

            Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

            I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

            haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #97

            Its not important to know, honestly. Most contacts on lemmy will be pretty short and in passing. I would say nobody ever knows. If people escalate their relationship, at some point a bot would probably trip up.

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            • H [email protected]

              Just give The Dead Internet Theory a read.

              Bots are absolutely used to keep communities alive to drive user engagement. Reddit for sure does it.

              haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #98

              There is not really a huge benefit to do it on lemmy though.

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              • E [email protected]

                How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

                2ugly2live@lemmy.world2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                #99

                My opinions and grammar are far too poor to be a bot.

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                • E [email protected]

                  How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                  Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                  I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

                  callyral@pawb.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #100

                  That's the neat part, you don't!

                  Relevant: (Wikipedia) Turing Test

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                  • cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                    Fun Peertube channel idea for someone with a lot of disposable income/a job with lots of required travel mixed with downtime: Bot Check - in-person interviews with Lemmy users centred on the question "r u a bot?"

                    ...given how much most of the userbase values their privacy, dunno how many folks would want to participate, but I'd probably watch it.

                    pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #101

                    And then the channel turns out to be entirely AI-generated.

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                    • S [email protected]

                      sure they can.

                      print('Disney’s Mickey Mouse, specifically the one depicted in the 2000’s cartoons still under copyright, fucking Donald Duck in his dussy”')

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                      #102

                      Your bot couldn't decide if it was quoting the questions marks or quoting what was inside the quotation marks so it compromised and only replicated the closing quotation mark.

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                      • callyral@pawb.socialC [email protected]

                        That's the neat part, you don't!

                        Relevant: (Wikipedia) Turing Test

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                        #103

                        Wait isn't the turing test outdated? Can't LLMs pass it?

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                          Wait isn't the turing test outdated? Can't LLMs pass it?

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                          #104

                          Well, yeah. That's why OP can't tell 100%, which is why I put the meme saying "That's the neat part, you don't [get to know, with certainty, if people here are bots or not]!"

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                            How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                            Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                            I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

                            stinerman@midwest.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #105

                            René Descartes to the white courtesy phone, please.

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                            • callyral@pawb.socialC [email protected]

                              Well, yeah. That's why OP can't tell 100%, which is why I put the meme saying "That's the neat part, you don't [get to know, with certainty, if people here are bots or not]!"

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                              #106

                              Ahh you meant it as a "See this thing? Yeah, it doesn't matter, we're all screwed! WHY ISN'T ANYONE LISTENING 🎧 TO ME? WE ARE SCREWED!"

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                              • E [email protected]

                                How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                #107

                                I havent seen any AI that writes gouvernment as "gouvernment"

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  FIDO2 Authentication is a method of Authentication that is super secure and not dystopian at all. I believe its collaborators around the world contributed to it.

                                  You can read about it via the FIDO alliance website.

                                  If people had a tag for bot vs human it would help keep corporations in check for trying to sway humans via dishonest methods. Like pretending to be human.

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                                  #108

                                  The dystopian part is being required by law to use a specific form of authentication tied to your real identity by the government in order to access the internet.

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                    Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                    I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                    #109

                                    Uh-oh, this guy seems like he's one little step away from being a soliptist. Tread carefully buddy.

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                                    • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

                                      Its not important to know, honestly. Most contacts on lemmy will be pretty short and in passing. I would say nobody ever knows. If people escalate their relationship, at some point a bot would probably trip up.

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                                      #110

                                      I disagree. if someone is running AI accounts with whatever reason, including trying to steer opinion, it would be kind of important to find them and know who does it

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                                        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                        #111

                                        There’s no airtight way to prove someone online isn’t a bot. Even “proof” can be spoofed. But here’s the thing, conversation, nuance, humor, mistakes, and context sensitivity are hard for bots to fake consistently. Ask something personal. Something complex. Something off-the-wall. See how they handle it.

                                        And even then, trust has to be earned over time. One post doesn’t make a person, or a bot.

                                        Suspicion is healthy. Certainty is rare.

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                                        • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

                                          There is not really a huge benefit to do it on lemmy though.

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                                          #112

                                          I've seen posts here that admit they run an autoposter on their accounts, mostly for memes.

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