how do I know that you guys are real and not bots?
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
Relevant: (Wikipedia) Turing Test
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Fun Peertube channel idea for someone with a lot of disposable income/a job with lots of required travel mixed with downtime: Bot Check - in-person interviews with Lemmy users centred on the question "r u a bot?"
...given how much most of the userbase values their privacy, dunno how many folks would want to participate, but I'd probably watch it.
And then the channel turns out to be entirely AI-generated.
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sure they can.
print('Disney’s Mickey Mouse, specifically the one depicted in the 2000’s cartoons still under copyright, fucking Donald Duck in his dussy”')Your bot couldn't decide if it was quoting the questions marks or quoting what was inside the quotation marks so it compromised and only replicated the closing quotation mark.
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Relevant: (Wikipedia) Turing Test
Wait isn't the turing test outdated? Can't LLMs pass it?
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Wait isn't the turing test outdated? Can't LLMs pass it?
Well, yeah. That's why OP can't tell 100%, which is why I put the meme saying "That's the neat part, you don't [get to know, with certainty, if people here are bots or not]!"
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
René Descartes to the white courtesy phone, please.
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Well, yeah. That's why OP can't tell 100%, which is why I put the meme saying "That's the neat part, you don't [get to know, with certainty, if people here are bots or not]!"
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Ahh you meant it as a "See this thing? Yeah, it doesn't matter, we're all screwed! WHY ISN'T ANYONE LISTENING
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
I havent seen any AI that writes gouvernment as "gouvernment"
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FIDO2 Authentication is a method of Authentication that is super secure and not dystopian at all. I believe its collaborators around the world contributed to it.
You can read about it via the FIDO alliance website.
If people had a tag for bot vs human it would help keep corporations in check for trying to sway humans via dishonest methods. Like pretending to be human.
The dystopian part is being required by law to use a specific form of authentication tied to your real identity by the government in order to access the internet.
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
Uh-oh, this guy seems like he's one little step away from being a soliptist. Tread carefully buddy.
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Its not important to know, honestly. Most contacts on lemmy will be pretty short and in passing. I would say nobody ever knows. If people escalate their relationship, at some point a bot would probably trip up.
I disagree. if someone is running AI accounts with whatever reason, including trying to steer opinion, it would be kind of important to find them and know who does it
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
There’s no airtight way to prove someone online isn’t a bot. Even “proof” can be spoofed. But here’s the thing, conversation, nuance, humor, mistakes, and context sensitivity are hard for bots to fake consistently. Ask something personal. Something complex. Something off-the-wall. See how they handle it.
And even then, trust has to be earned over time. One post doesn’t make a person, or a bot.
Suspicion is healthy. Certainty is rare.
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There is not really a huge benefit to do it on lemmy though.
I've seen posts here that admit they run an autoposter on their accounts, mostly for memes.
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The dystopian part is being required by law to use a specific form of authentication tied to your real identity by the government in order to access the internet.
So to play devils advocate. Chase bank doesnt require FIDO2 authentication and allows sms or email mfa.
This allows people to easily hack your banking accounts and steal your cash. How would you secure that authentication process or what reason do banks have to increase their website security to protect your financial accounts?
Regulation is not dystopian. This law wouldn't be dystopian. Having bots pose as humans to influence opinion is dystopian imo.
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I disagree. if someone is running AI accounts with whatever reason, including trying to steer opinion, it would be kind of important to find them and know who does it
I'm sorry to disappoint you but this being done all day every day. Every poster, every ad, even the people you meet. Its a gigantic psy op. The best weapon against psy ops is education. Read books, keep to relatively independent media, diversify your sources, etc.
I have this regularly on lemmy as well as the outside world. People irl suddenly all say immigrants bad, social system bad, etc. They're brainwashed. It also has been done the exact same way before. Leading up to ww2 we had the same issues just no internet.
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Uh-oh, this guy seems like he's one little step away from being a soliptist. Tread carefully buddy.
Nice one.
Solipsism [...] the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
Beep boop he is onto us.
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Look at you, hacker: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
Doctor Turing enters the chat
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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?
Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?
I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).
I also often wonder the same thing….
