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how do I know that you guys are real and not bots?

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  • 6 [email protected]

    ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
    Doctor Turing enters the chat
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    I think Turing's Test was only about the quality of AI. But there's still outside-of-the-digital-world characteristics that distinguish humans from AI. For example, you'd be able to walk up to a server administrator and speak to them in person so they give you an account on their server. AI could never do that.

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      This is the kind of thinking that leads people to psychotic breaks and shooting up a mall because the robots looked at them funny lol

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      Please Standby, citizen.

      The pre-crime task force is enroute to apprehend @[email protected]. Lethal Force has been authorized.

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        Yup, won’t touch Disney

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          There’s no airtight way to prove someone online isn’t a bot. Even “proof” can be spoofed. But here’s the thing, conversation, nuance, humor, mistakes, and context sensitivity are hard for bots to fake consistently. Ask something personal. Something complex. Something off-the-wall. See how they handle it.

          And even then, trust has to be earned over time. One post doesn’t make a person, or a bot.

          Suspicion is healthy. Certainty is rare.

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          Ask something personal.

          Something personal you say? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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            I havent seen any AI that writes gouvernment as "gouvernment"

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            "Chat GPT, write a 5 paragraph essay explaining why fascism is actually good and include spelling mistakes to emulate being human."

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            • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

              I can point out traffic lights to you if you wanna test me.

              I only seem like a bot because I am a total fucking loser with no life. 😃

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              Find any mail that you received, look for the text in the front of the envelope, what does it say?

              Post it here. 😉

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              • that_devil_girl@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                Chat bots aren't currently programmed to answer questions about color combinations. AI programs like ChatGPT can, but your typical chat bot on internet forums, business chat channels, and dating sites can't.

                Next time you think you're dealing with a bot, ask it a color combination question like "What do you get when you combine red and blue?"

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                The only way to determine if someone is a bot is... to ask a prejudiced question against colorblind people? 🫠

                /kidding

                Real Answer: Red and Blue = Total Calamity in the USA and potentially Civil War 2.0

                You didn't specify red and blue what, so I filled it in.

                (Okay actual real answer: Who the fuck even knows their color combinations. People would just google it. Skynet could do the same.)

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                • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                  I think Turing's Test was only about the quality of AI. But there's still outside-of-the-digital-world characteristics that distinguish humans from AI. For example, you'd be able to walk up to a server administrator and speak to them in person so they give you an account on their server. AI could never do that.

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                  #130

                  Sure, but OP is just asking about the quality of responses from AI bots on Lemmy. I don't think he's planning on meeting us to verify lol

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                    Sure, but OP is just asking about the quality of responses from AI bots on Lemmy. I don't think he's planning on meeting us to verify lol

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                    I understand, but please see my other comment under this post. I explained it there.

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                      I TOO ENJOY INGESTING THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF OXYGEN, AND AMBULATING AROUND THE NATURE ON MY LOWER APPENDAGES.

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                      HA-HA, I TOO INGEST CARBOHYDRATES FOR SURVIVAL THROUGH MY FACE ORIFICE. I THEN TRANSPORT MYSELF WITHOUT A SOURCE OF ELECTRICITY. IT IS INDEED CONVENIENT TO BE A BIOLOGICAL BIPEDAL ORGANISM.

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                        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                          How do you know your own mother is real and not some holodeck character or maybe even just a figment if your imagination, or worse, a figment of MY imagination?

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                            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                              I have the idea that public libraries could host fediverse instance. Just register an account on their server, then go there physically and they will approve the account. You don't need to show them your ID or even tell them your name. They just see that you're a fleshy human. Now, other people who federate with this server can know that any account registered on it is at least associated to a human. That human can still use AI to post on that account, but at least there's not millions of bot accounts in circulation.

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                              I actually really like this idea.

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                              • E [email protected]

                                How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                Frankly, at this point, I just assume. The old joke was something like everyone on the internet is a man, except for the children, those are FBI agents. Now I just assume everyone is a bot.

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                                  Nice one.

                                  Solipsism [...] the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.

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                                  Closely related to the brain in a vat thought experiment

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                                    How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                    Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                    I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                    No one would program a bot as wrong as often as me or as asshole as me on purpose

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                                    • fishos@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                      Frankly, at this point, I just assume. The old joke was something like everyone on the internet is a man, except for the children, those are FBI agents. Now I just assume everyone is a bot.

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                                      Hmmm, well that’s what a bot would say

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                                        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                        Bruh, I'm not even sure if I'm real rn

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                          Sorry, you hit your message limit for the free tier of KrillAI. Upgrade to the Gold tier of KrillAI to gain unlimited messaging. Toodloo!

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