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how do I know that you guys are real and not bots?

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  • P [email protected]

    I TOO ENJOY INGESTING THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF OXYGEN, AND AMBULATING AROUND THE NATURE ON MY LOWER APPENDAGES.

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    HA-HA, I TOO INGEST CARBOHYDRATES FOR SURVIVAL THROUGH MY FACE ORIFICE. I THEN TRANSPORT MYSELF WITHOUT A SOURCE OF ELECTRICITY. IT IS INDEED CONVENIENT TO BE A BIOLOGICAL BIPEDAL ORGANISM.

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    • E [email protected]

      How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

      Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

      I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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      • E [email protected]

        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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        #134

        How do you know your own mother is real and not some holodeck character or maybe even just a figment if your imagination, or worse, a figment of MY imagination?

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          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

            I have the idea that public libraries could host fediverse instance. Just register an account on their server, then go there physically and they will approve the account. You don't need to show them your ID or even tell them your name. They just see that you're a fleshy human. Now, other people who federate with this server can know that any account registered on it is at least associated to a human. That human can still use AI to post on that account, but at least there's not millions of bot accounts in circulation.

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            #136

            I actually really like this idea.

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            • E [email protected]

              How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

              Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

              I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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              #137

              Frankly, at this point, I just assume. The old joke was something like everyone on the internet is a man, except for the children, those are FBI agents. Now I just assume everyone is a bot.

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                Nice one.

                Solipsism [...] the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.

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                #138

                Closely related to the brain in a vat thought experiment

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                • E [email protected]

                  How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                  Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                  I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                  #139

                  No one would program a bot as wrong as often as me or as asshole as me on purpose

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                  • fishos@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                    Frankly, at this point, I just assume. The old joke was something like everyone on the internet is a man, except for the children, those are FBI agents. Now I just assume everyone is a bot.

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                    #140

                    Hmmm, well that’s what a bot would say

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                    • E [email protected]

                      How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                      Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                      I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                      #141

                      Bruh, I'm not even sure if I'm real rn

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                      • E [email protected]

                        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

                        ironkrill@lemmy.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #142

                        Sorry, you hit your message limit for the free tier of KrillAI. Upgrade to the Gold tier of KrillAI to gain unlimited messaging. Toodloo!

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                        • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

                          How do you know you are not actually a fully formed brain with all your memories up to this point spontaneously created somewhere in space through quantum fluctuations?

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                          cuz I would immediately die?

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                          • E [email protected]

                            How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                            Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                            I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                            #144

                            I am human. I too poop out of my anus.

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                            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                              I have the idea that public libraries could host fediverse instance. Just register an account on their server, then go there physically and they will approve the account. You don't need to show them your ID or even tell them your name. They just see that you're a fleshy human. Now, other people who federate with this server can know that any account registered on it is at least associated to a human. That human can still use AI to post on that account, but at least there's not millions of bot accounts in circulation.

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                              #145

                              This is such a good idea! I have been thinkning about something like this for a long time, like, town instances, city instances, etc.

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                              • E [email protected]

                                How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                #146

                                Could a bot do THIS?!

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Nice try, FISTO. We all know it's you.

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                                  Beep boop

                                  I-was-built-for-fisting

                                  Actually, I'm not. I have big hands...

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                    Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                    I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                    #148

                                    You don't 😄

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                                    • E [email protected]

                                      How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                      Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                      I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                      #149

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                                      • fishos@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                        Frankly, at this point, I just assume. The old joke was something like everyone on the internet is a man, except for the children, those are FBI agents. Now I just assume everyone is a bot.

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                                        How do you know that the person talking to you is not a dog.

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                          #151

                                          That's a great question! Let's go over the common factors which can typically be used to differentiate humans from AI:

                                          🧠 Hallucination
                                          Both humans and AI can have gaps in their knowledge, but a key difference between how a person and an LLM responds can be determined by paying close attention to their answers.

                                          If a person doesn't know the answer to something, they will typically let you know.
                                          But if an AI doesn't know the answer, they will typically fabricate false answers as they are typically programmed to always return an informational response.

                                          ✍️ Writing style
                                          People typically each have a unique writing style, which can be used to differentiate and identify them.

                                          For example, somebody may frequently make the same grammatical errors across all of their messages.
                                          Whereas an AI is based on token frequency sampling, and is therefore more likely to have correct grammar.

                                          ❌ Explicit material
                                          As an AI assistant, I am designed to provide factual information in a safe, legal, and inclusive manner. Speaking about explicit or unethical content could create an uncomfortable or uninclusive atmosphere, which would go against my guidelines.

                                          A human on the other hand, would be free to make remarks such as "cum on my face daddy, I want your sweet juice to fill my pores." which would be highly inappropriate for the given context.

                                          🌐 Cultural differences
                                          People from specific cultures may be able to detect the presence of an AI based on its lack of culture-specific language.
                                          For example, an AI pretending to be Australian will likely draw suspicion amongst Australians, due to the lack of the word 'cunt' in every sentence.

                                          💧Instruction leaks
                                          If a message contains wording which indicates the sender is working under instruction or guidance, it could indicate that they are an AI.
                                          However, be wary of predominantly human traits like sarcasm, as it is also possible that the commenter is a human pretending to be an AI.

                                          🎁 Wrapping up
                                          While these signs alone may not be enough to determine if you are speaking with a human or an AI, they may provide valuable tools in your investigative toolkit.
                                          Resolving confusion by authenticating Personally Identifiable Information is another great step to ensuring the authenticity of the person you're speaking with.

                                          Would you like me to draft a web form for users to submit their PII during registration?

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