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how do I know that you guys are real and not bots?

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  • wirelesswire@lemmy.zipW [email protected]

    I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM A HUMAN, JUST LIKE YOU ARE. I ENJOY HUMAN THINGS LIKE BREATHING AIR AND DRINKING LUBRICANT WATER.

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    I TOO ENJOY INGESTING THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF OXYGEN, AND AMBULATING AROUND THE NATURE ON MY LOWER APPENDAGES.

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    • wirelesswire@lemmy.zipW [email protected]

      I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM A HUMAN, JUST LIKE YOU ARE. I ENJOY HUMAN THINGS LIKE BREATHING AIR AND DRINKING LUBRICANT WATER.

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      I DO NOT EVEN MOVE THE FEED BY EDITING THE CSS BUT WITH A FINGER!

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      • E [email protected]

        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

        jojowski@sopuli.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        Just ask me to select the images with traffic lights in them, of course. Being a human I will fail at least a couple times because I'm not sure if that image with the corner of a traffic light should be selected or not.

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        • E [email protected]

          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

          pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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          I think at this point you'd have to visit each one of us in person to be sure.

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            How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

            Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

            I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

            quazatron@lemmy.worldQ This user is from outside of this forum
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            Yeah, we're managed to fuck up the one tool that could bring global cooperation. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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              I TOO ENJOY INGESTING THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF OXYGEN, AND AMBULATING AROUND THE NATURE ON MY LOWER APPENDAGES.

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              AMBULATING WITH A DOMESTICATED COMPANION CARBON-BASED LIFEFORM IS A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE THAT PRODUCES ENDORPHINS IN MY ALL-TOO HUMAN EXISTENCE.

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              • E [email protected]

                How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                On reddit?

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                • quazatron@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                  Yeah, we're managed to fuck up the one tool that could bring global cooperation. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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                  Who says it's going to get better?

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                    How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                    Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                    I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

                    E This user is from outside of this forum
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                    I mean to build up a realistic bot takes time and effort. And then you need to do that for different topics AND different sides on these to build any sort of credibility in each to actually have an impact for the topic you want to push at some moment.

                    You can not use the same profile for everything, like to one moment push republican nonsense and then suddenly Dems. Or one company and then their competitor.

                    But the biggest thing is: most people are so stupid, it would be way too much effort. Trump got voted. Again. That is all you need to know about how easily people follow the most utter bullshit.

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                      On reddit?

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                      that's the spiritual predecessor of lemmy

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                        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                        I can point out traffic lights to you if you wanna test me.

                        I only seem like a bot because I am a total fucking loser with no life. 😃

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                          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                          You don't. I don't. We don't. My comment could have been written by AI, just as your post. At some point I'm sure some of us, without knowing, had a discussion with an AI bot pushing some sort of propaganda or shilling something. I mean, it was happening even before AI - years before, and some political regimes have been flooding the internet with their shit and it was well documented. Now it's just getting worse.

                          Even "vetted account run by a real person" can be later handed over to an AI bot farm.

                          Also, I have fun imagining a bunch of AI bots stuck in a discussion loop, endlessly shilling crap to each other, creating insanely long threads until the platform can't handle it anymore or until a Mod AI comes along and slaps them out of it.

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                          • pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.deP [email protected]

                            I think at this point you'd have to visit each one of us in person to be sure.

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                            ^^ that person first though.

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                            • E [email protected]

                              I mean to build up a realistic bot takes time and effort. And then you need to do that for different topics AND different sides on these to build any sort of credibility in each to actually have an impact for the topic you want to push at some moment.

                              You can not use the same profile for everything, like to one moment push republican nonsense and then suddenly Dems. Or one company and then their competitor.

                              But the biggest thing is: most people are so stupid, it would be way too much effort. Trump got voted. Again. That is all you need to know about how easily people follow the most utter bullshit.

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                              in the pre llm era, I'd agree that it takes effort but reddit sold the comments and posts, and lemmy's stuff is all public and freely available. anyone can train bots.

                              I didn't think of bots with great reputation. Just simple bots for engagement. Bots that answer your question how to treat pimpels. bots sharing their made up experience with being vegan. bots commenting on funny memes. Not for pushing an agenda but for pushing real human engagement. keeping you on reddit. making you believe there are real people liking your meme, even if it sometimes just a smiley. If it is not feasible today, it will be tomorrow or in 10 years. Facebook will be able to create fake human images and fake timelines effortless.

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                              • E [email protected]

                                How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

                                libb@jlai.luL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                No one is paying me a monthly sub for me to pretend being interested in the shit they want to say. So it's a safe bet to say I'm not an AI 😉
                                Edit: and since i have no battery to recharge and no EULA, I can deduce I'm not a robot either.

                                edit: clicked too fast.

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                                  How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                  Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                  I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                  That is easy. Ask us to solve a captcha. If we struggle then we are real human beings.

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                                    How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                    Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                    I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                    No bot would post the bizarre and horrifying shit that I post

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                                      How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                      Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                      I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

                                      sharkfucker420@lemmy.mlS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Idk what interest someone would have in making me if I were a bot

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                                        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                        Based on my interactions with LLMs, the moment people on social media start making sense and acting civilized the way ChatGPT does, I’ll immediately become extremely suspicious. Right now, I’m not worried one bit.

                                        Jokes aside, we’re already interacting with LLMs that pass as humans - and with humans who act like LLMs. In that sense, I don’t see a huge difference. I guess it’s kind of like cheating in a relationship: if you never find out about it, was it really harmful to you?

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          I think, therefore I am.

                                          I am the product of my thoughts.

                                          I am dying every moment because death is not being and I am only now.

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                                          That’s exactly what a Boltzmann’s brain would say.

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