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Y'all forgetting they were gathering period data and were arresting women who had 'abortion-like' procedures?

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    Handing out endocrine disrupting medication to teenagers for decades to come is a pretty crazy idea if you stop to think about it. Not to throw the baby out with the bath water, but we do have a lot to learn about how the human body works.

    Everyone should be using condoms, though. It’s a good backup for monogamous couples and it’s the bare minimum that people who change partners more frequently should do. Have you seen the Gonorrhoea stats lately? And the antibiotic resistance? Bag it!

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    Handing out endocrine disrupting medication to teenagers is a pretty crazy idea

    JK Rowling would be proud.

    the ole' "we don't have enough data to let children have autonomy over their bodies"

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      I highly encourage anyone that doesn’t want to ever have kids, to go get tied or snipped so that you won’t ever have to worry about it.

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        Handing out endocrine disrupting medication to teenagers is a pretty crazy idea

        JK Rowling would be proud.

        the ole' "we don't have enough data to let children have autonomy over their bodies"

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        That’s one way to read it. That’s not what I meant. Not everything is about that troll.

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        • nz_fish@sh.itjust.worksN [email protected]

          I think headaches and nausea are preferable over unwanted children for most people

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          I get where you’re coming from, but there’s a bit of a (hopefully unintended) subtext in your comment that women must be the ones to bear the inconvenience in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

          Used correctly, condoms are about 1% off from hormonal birth control in effectiveness. But I guess headaches, nausea, and other side effects for women aren’t all that bad compared to some reduced sensation for the penis. After all, women are already used to it from their cycles, right? /s

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            It’s being pushed by the TERF/radfems on tumblr (covert alt right movement) as well. Birth control messes up your goddess energy or something.

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              Gotta grow new soldiers for the next war

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                I highly encourage anyone that doesn’t want to ever have kids, to go get tied or snipped so that you won’t ever have to worry about it.

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                And if you're in a conservative hell state in the United States where doctors refuse to do a tubal ligation unless you have one child, are over 30, or "get your (nonexistent) husband to sign off on it", find a doctor in Washington, California, Massachusetts, or really any non Republican dumpster fire, and they'll likely treat you like an adult. Likely. Not bitter about that at all.

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                  Seems more like this post was done to peddle big pharmas and the patriarchies idea of how women should be available for sex by being constantly drugged on hormons.

                  Condoms are a thing and protect against many STDs too.

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                  patriarchies idea of how women should...

                  How about women have the right to choose how they want to plan their families how they see fit

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Cycle tracking in Apple’s Health app is also private.

                    https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/health-app/

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                    It is, for now, but what if the fascists eventually order Apple to give up the info?

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                      I knew a woman who stopped taking birth control because of occasional headaches, and she and her husband both ended up with one that didn’t move out until 23 years later.

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                      This actually happened to me. The doctor said the birth control was raising my blood pressure. I said "I don't think so" but turns out she was right. So I quit them and immediately got pregnant.

                      But when you say "occasional headaches"? The other thing I found out when I quit them is that they were amplifying my migraines quite a lot. Occasional headaches does not adequately describe that pain, vomiting from the pain.

                      (ETA - the copper IUD was also a nightmare for me, but eventually landed on the hormonal IUD and that was fantastic, those got me through to menopause - Birth Control doesn't have to be the pills, and not all of the 'hormonal' methods are the same. And an IUD will last longer than the current administration)

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                      • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                        And if you're in a conservative hell state in the United States where doctors refuse to do a tubal ligation unless you have one child, are over 30, or "get your (nonexistent) husband to sign off on it", find a doctor in Washington, California, Massachusetts, or really any non Republican dumpster fire, and they'll likely treat you like an adult. Likely. Not bitter about that at all.

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                        One of my best friends had endo. She tried to get it fixed (she is not straight and never wanted kids) and she was told “no, there’s other options, we’re not doing a hysterectomy” multiple times.

                        I believe it was her third suicide attempt after being admitted multiple other times for self harm that they finally took her shit out.

                        She’s been fine since then. No suicide-inducing pain, no debilitation, no problem. You’re right—it’s fucking insane that it has to come to that.

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                          I highly encourage anyone that doesn’t want to ever have kids, to go get tied or snipped so that you won’t ever have to worry about it.

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                          I won't do this until we have a surgery that allows you to turn your sperm production on and off at any time with the push of a button.

                          I don't want kids but I may want them someday, and I rather not have to go through surgery twice and spend a bunch of money just because I changed my mind.

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                            I get where you’re coming from, but there’s a bit of a (hopefully unintended) subtext in your comment that women must be the ones to bear the inconvenience in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

                            Used correctly, condoms are about 1% off from hormonal birth control in effectiveness. But I guess headaches, nausea, and other side effects for women aren’t all that bad compared to some reduced sensation for the penis. After all, women are already used to it from their cycles, right? /s

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                            Discomfort or inconvenience of condoms would also be preferable to an unwanted child for most people. Be safe, use both

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                              The states that imposed these Draconian laws have terrible maternal mortality rates now and they're trying to hide the data so they don't have to acknowledge the harm they did. Same way it was during COVID where some state governments like Florida were attacking independent investigators for having accurate numbers when the state changed theirs to try and look better.

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                                patriarchies idea of how women should...

                                How about women have the right to choose how they want to plan their families how they see fit

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                                For which they should know about the risks of hormonal contraception rather than it being swept under the rug.

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                                  drugged on hormones lmao? birth control doesn't have psychoactive effects, chill.

                                  on condoms: stealthing is a thing, condoms break, and no single birth control method is 100%. not everyone can afford the risk of pregnancy by relying on a single layer of defense

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                                  Hormones most definetely effect the psyche. There is a lot of women who have strong psychological side effects from hormonal birth control.

                                  Denying and downplaying these, like this post seems to advocate for, is not in the interest of anyone except the companies selling the drugs and men who think they are entitled to rawdog without consequences.

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                                    I won't do this until we have a surgery that allows you to turn your sperm production on and off at any time with the push of a button.

                                    I don't want kids but I may want them someday, and I rather not have to go through surgery twice and spend a bunch of money just because I changed my mind.

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                                    How would you feel about adopting?

                                    I got snipped and then got married to someone who already had a kid, so I ended up being a (step-)parent anyway. But I told my doctor that if I ever changed my mind, I would adopt.

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                                      I practice natural family planning

                                      It's called being ugly

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                                        Sure, the general "birth control is bad for you" message is not optimal. But the root of this misinformation are insights about the side effects coming up more or less recently. iirc one third to half of all women on hormonal birth control experience major side effects like headaches, nausea or mood changes. I can see how these significant findings combined with patriarchy awareness and associated anger led to exaggerated messages.

                                        Nonetheless, I think people thinking more critically about birth control is a good thing as one should always consider both benefits and risks.

                                        Edit: Or did I misread this post? If so, I'm very sorry...

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                                        Don’t most of these issues relate to the pill specifically? The pill releases far more hormones in the body than a UDI which to my understanding is safe for most women.

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                                          Sure, the general "birth control is bad for you" message is not optimal. But the root of this misinformation are insights about the side effects coming up more or less recently. iirc one third to half of all women on hormonal birth control experience major side effects like headaches, nausea or mood changes. I can see how these significant findings combined with patriarchy awareness and associated anger led to exaggerated messages.

                                          Nonetheless, I think people thinking more critically about birth control is a good thing as one should always consider both benefits and risks.

                                          Edit: Or did I misread this post? If so, I'm very sorry...

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                                          Do you know what has all of those adverse effects in much greater frequency while also having a profound effect on your life? Pregnancy

                                          Yes, the medical field has done a fucking terrible job of communicating the adverse effects of anything to do exclusively with AFAB bodies - look up what an IUD insertion is like without anesthesia - but again, if we compare hormonal birth control to pregnancy in terms of adverse physiological and mental effects, it's not even on the same planet.

                                          Yeah, it might not be great for a sizable percentage of folks, and a minute percentage of folks have more immediately dangerous adverse effects that make taking hormonal birth control impossible, but in almost every case pregnancy is worse.

                                          There's an obvious reason to get pregnant, for sure, but it comes with much, much greater risks than preventing it, especially if you don't want the intended outcome of pregnancy.

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