Before And After: The Iranian Nuclear Sites Targeted By US Airstrikes
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I live in the US. I blame 40% of the people at a minimum, and likely more than that.
60%. Non-voters don't get a pass.
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It's a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners...
And Trump is that way because he's an unintelligent nepobaby. We have to draw a line somewhere.
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And Trump is that way because he's an unintelligent nepobaby. We have to draw a line somewhere.
Trump is mostly a pawn really. The people pulling the strings is where the line should be drawn. They know what they are doing is wrong, but do it anyway.
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As an outsider, I don't blame the people who voted for him the first time but the second time? Nope. People had a choice to be less gullible because there was evidence that he is not fit to lead: felony charges, nepotism, incompetence, derangement etc.
It's cognitive dissonance from the top down.
That's not how gullible works. You don't have a choice. Evidence doesn't matter if you are convinced it is fake news. And yes, I have met people who really believed all of that was fake news.
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I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.
But look at the data. Forvthe most part it is the red states he is hurting the most. They litterally are the victums. Doesn't stop me from hating them, but I know the blame doesn't really belong on them. The people who deserve the blame just want us to blame them.
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That's not how gullible works. You don't have a choice. Evidence doesn't matter if you are convinced it is fake news. And yes, I have met people who really believed all of that was fake news.
... Yes it is.
And this.
Gullibility is a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action
Don't forget that most of American media outlets aren't very conservative, compared to places like Australia and China, for example, where a majority if not all the media is owned and operated by a single entity.
Australia managed to shirk the rise of Dutton and the Liberal party, which is GOP-wannabe-lite, and we kicked them to the curb even though almost all of our media did a massive scaremongering campaign and was constantly doing puff pieces and character assassinations.
So, I'm saying that you all do have a choice and, additionally, you all desperately need access to proper mental healthcare because only truly sick and gullible people could vote for Trump again.
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Russia: Am I joke to you?
I will say this for Russia: they restrict their indiscriminate bombing and terrorism mostly to countries they actually border. I don't know if that makes it any better, because it does mean they're occupying a big part of another country and abducting or massacring parts of their population with the explicit intent of genocide, but at least it's only regional instead of global.
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I will say this for Russia: they restrict their indiscriminate bombing and terrorism mostly to countries they actually border. I don't know if that makes it any better, because it does mean they're occupying a big part of another country and abducting or massacring parts of their population with the explicit intent of genocide, but at least it's only regional instead of global.
Only because they don't have the resources to go further. And considering they span like half the globe only attacking countries they border isn't as small-scale as it sounds.
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Only because they don't have the resources to go further. And considering they span like half the globe only attacking countries they border isn't as small-scale as it sounds.
And they're actively looking to expand their borders too. Putin has referred to a Eurasian empire from Vladivostok to Lisbon.
His ideas are absolutely more brutal than those of the US, it's just that his reach is less, and he hates that.
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... Yes it is.
And this.
Gullibility is a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action
Don't forget that most of American media outlets aren't very conservative, compared to places like Australia and China, for example, where a majority if not all the media is owned and operated by a single entity.
Australia managed to shirk the rise of Dutton and the Liberal party, which is GOP-wannabe-lite, and we kicked them to the curb even though almost all of our media did a massive scaremongering campaign and was constantly doing puff pieces and character assassinations.
So, I'm saying that you all do have a choice and, additionally, you all desperately need access to proper mental healthcare because only truly sick and gullible people could vote for Trump again.
Neither of those links have anything to do with people having a choice to be less gulible. They are just definitions of the words with examples of use.
Gullibility is a personal trait, not a choice. You mention accessing proper mental healthcare... good luck in the US. Besides, these people are being fed the line that they aren't the ones who need help. Not to mention being convinced that the mental health professionals are transition toddler between sexes (which of course they aren't). So they avoid even seeking the care. -
But look at the data. Forvthe most part it is the red states he is hurting the most. They litterally are the victums. Doesn't stop me from hating them, but I know the blame doesn't really belong on them. The people who deserve the blame just want us to blame them.
They go on their gut, not on data. And that too is a choice they make as adults which I think we can hold them responsible for.
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Neither of those links have anything to do with people having a choice to be less gulible. They are just definitions of the words with examples of use.
Gullibility is a personal trait, not a choice. You mention accessing proper mental healthcare... good luck in the US. Besides, these people are being fed the line that they aren't the ones who need help. Not to mention being convinced that the mental health professionals are transition toddler between sexes (which of course they aren't). So they avoid even seeking the care.But that's my point regarding healthcare. You guys just accept the status quo and this is where it has gotten you. It was never always like this in America; it's just that the noose has slowly been tightening around your necks and you just... Let it be.
It's always a choice. You can stand there with your mouths agape and be fed with hook, line and sinker. Or you can choose to seek out the information, have conversations, choose to listen and process, choose to be open minded...
Just like choosing to bury your head in the sand is also a choice. A Florida rep recently chose to ignore evidence and reality and blame the opposition for almost dying after having an abortion. She can also afford mental healthcare but obviously chooses not to.
Avoidance is still a choice. Remaining apathetic is a choice. Remaining ignorant is a choice. Voting for a felon, for a second time, is a choice.
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They go on their gut, not on data. And that too is a choice they make as adults which I think we can hold them responsible for.
You need to try to talk to more of these people. There are some who deserve blame, but not nearly as many as you think. Being an adult doesn't automatically make a person capable of good decisions.
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But that's my point regarding healthcare. You guys just accept the status quo and this is where it has gotten you. It was never always like this in America; it's just that the noose has slowly been tightening around your necks and you just... Let it be.
It's always a choice. You can stand there with your mouths agape and be fed with hook, line and sinker. Or you can choose to seek out the information, have conversations, choose to listen and process, choose to be open minded...
Just like choosing to bury your head in the sand is also a choice. A Florida rep recently chose to ignore evidence and reality and blame the opposition for almost dying after having an abortion. She can also afford mental healthcare but obviously chooses not to.
Avoidance is still a choice. Remaining apathetic is a choice. Remaining ignorant is a choice. Voting for a felon, for a second time, is a choice.
The thing I disagree with is the choice part. You are basically saying that people who have been brainwashed should choose to get the help needed to undo the brainwashing that convinced them that only evil people could have been brainwashed and that they are the most virtuous and righteous people to have ever lived. That just doesn't work, that is why interventions exist.
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You need to try to talk to more of these people. There are some who deserve blame, but not nearly as many as you think. Being an adult doesn't automatically make a person capable of good decisions.
I’m not saying it does, but as an adult you are responsible for your choices. None of what you’re saying would ever stand up in court.
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I’m not saying it does, but as an adult you are responsible for your choices. None of what you’re saying would ever stand up in court.
But should you really? Watch the john oliver bit about online gambling. You end up with one person against an army of experts trying to manipulate them into making a bad decision. When do we decide that it's just not fair for a lot of people, and they really had no chance.
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The thing I disagree with is the choice part. You are basically saying that people who have been brainwashed should choose to get the help needed to undo the brainwashing that convinced them that only evil people could have been brainwashed and that they are the most virtuous and righteous people to have ever lived. That just doesn't work, that is why interventions exist.
But people don't exist in a vacuum. You're part of a community that's still functioning.
You say as if everyone is straight jacket bound, hands and feet wrapped tightly, eyes blindfolded and mouth plugged. Born that way, in fact. If that were actually the case, you'd all be dead and your country would cease to exist.
You forget to think how this all starts. Everyone is born with free will. You end up in the deep end because of the first few steps you take, and you always have a choice to either stay or change yourself or others. Some choices are easier than others and I'm saying that Trump got in because people chose to be selfish or greedy or ignorant.
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But people don't exist in a vacuum. You're part of a community that's still functioning.
You say as if everyone is straight jacket bound, hands and feet wrapped tightly, eyes blindfolded and mouth plugged. Born that way, in fact. If that were actually the case, you'd all be dead and your country would cease to exist.
You forget to think how this all starts. Everyone is born with free will. You end up in the deep end because of the first few steps you take, and you always have a choice to either stay or change yourself or others. Some choices are easier than others and I'm saying that Trump got in because people chose to be selfish or greedy or ignorant.
But we aren't talking about everyone. Trump got less than 50%, 10 to 15% voted for him because they were greedy, and he was good for them.
35 to 40% are just to gullible. It is them I find it hard to completely blame. -
But we aren't talking about everyone. Trump got less than 50%, 10 to 15% voted for him because they were greedy, and he was good for them.
35 to 40% are just to gullible. It is them I find it hard to completely blame.Look, I have a cousin in Texas who voted Republican last election. She's very smart; works as a psychiatrist for neurodivergent children. Her reasoning for voting that way was because they 'reflect and represent' her values: low taxes and small government. She says she doesn't like Trump but voting Republican doesn't mean that she's voting for Trump, she's voting for her party.
I've spoken to her at length because I wanted to understand where this thought process comes from and my conclusion was that it's total cognitive dissonance, and that's a choice she's made. I know she's smart and rational but when it comes to politics, it seems to me that most Americans just don't care or justify their ignorance with mental gymnastics.
If you can't blame them, that's fine, you do you. However, for me, shame on those who voted Trump in a second time. Shame, shame, shame.
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Look, I have a cousin in Texas who voted Republican last election. She's very smart; works as a psychiatrist for neurodivergent children. Her reasoning for voting that way was because they 'reflect and represent' her values: low taxes and small government. She says she doesn't like Trump but voting Republican doesn't mean that she's voting for Trump, she's voting for her party.
I've spoken to her at length because I wanted to understand where this thought process comes from and my conclusion was that it's total cognitive dissonance, and that's a choice she's made. I know she's smart and rational but when it comes to politics, it seems to me that most Americans just don't care or justify their ignorance with mental gymnastics.
If you can't blame them, that's fine, you do you. However, for me, shame on those who voted Trump in a second time. Shame, shame, shame.
I am going to go out on a limb and guess your sister is religous. If not, than she falls into the 10 to 15% who voted for him because they gain something. I had a contractor who turned out to be the same. All he cared about was voting for whoever was better for his wallet. Lower taxes mean more money for him. He even had a slip of paper in his pocket with the values of a stock market index before and after trump. He proudly claimed that is why he would vote for trump.
But my best friends brother in law is a vet, and he is very pro trump. He simply has been duped. He honestly believes that all the negative news about trump is fake news. That it is the establishment trying to smear trump while he fights for the little guy. He is not brilliant, but he is an adult, and he even served his country. But he fell victim to the lies and the propaganda.
For each one like my one time contractor, I know 4 more like my best friends brother in law.
