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do you think freewill truly exists?

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    How do you get married to someone if you never started with small talk?

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    The free will question is much closer to the conversations I was having with my wife before we got married. We were talking for hours every day, I can't imagine spending hours on small talk.

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      I hate talking small. I'm not good at it. It's one of the reasons I have a limited number of profound friendships rather than being liked by everybody. I'm an introvert. I'm ok with that. My partner can chat when we see each other after work because when we're talking about the kitties doing something cute or what we wanna have for dinner that's not small talk. That's talking about things with very low impact or consequences.

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      talking about things with very low impact or consequences

      Isn't that the definition of small talk?

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      • J [email protected]

        How do you get married to someone if you never started with small talk?

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        Well that wasn't really the question. But actually I met her when we were both pretty young so I don't recall it being much of an issue. We probably talked about kid stuff.

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          No, we just stfu when we don't have anything interesting to talk about. It's not complicated.

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          • D [email protected]

            That's the point of this post. That's fun for me too. But if you're living with someone, you've found out what their opinion on free will and almost every other deep conversation you could have with them in the first few years. How will it look 15 years later? Either you rehash the same conversation about free will multiple times a day or you wander around the same house in abject silence for months until one of you can think of a good continuation of that 20 year long "what is the meaning of life?" conversation you've been having. Instead just learn to small talk, life is long and it's nice to have the affirmation that a loved one still pays attention to and cares about your day to day.

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            you've found out what their opinion on free will and almost every other deep conversation you could have with them in the first few years

            I met my wife when we were 16-17. We are in our 40s now. It's reasonable to expect that our opinions on such subjects have changed since then.

            But there are plenty of subjects to talk about. How is the current environment in the US going to impact our kids' lives going forward? Even if we know each other's general perspectives on life, the universe, and everything, that doesn't mean we can also predict opinions on complex scenarios and situations.

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            • J [email protected]

              How do you get married to someone if you never started with small talk?

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              Fill the void with intercourse.

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                But at least it’s a conversation you can work with “oh yeah it’s so nice we should go do X” or “yeah it’s crazy out there, we should stay in and watch a movie and snuggle” the point of small talk is to open avenues of conversation… I think people just don’t know how to have conversations anymore and chalk it up to “not liking small talk”. Observation and response is a perfectly normal way to start a conversation

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                we should go do X

                we should stay in and watch a movie and snuggle

                That's not small talk, that's planning what to do today. You can open the same conversation with "hey, what do you want to do today?"

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                • S [email protected]

                  I hate talking small. I'm not good at it. It's one of the reasons I have a limited number of profound friendships rather than being liked by everybody. I'm an introvert. I'm ok with that. My partner can chat when we see each other after work because when we're talking about the kitties doing something cute or what we wanna have for dinner that's not small talk. That's talking about things with very low impact or consequences.

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                  That is small talk though.

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                    My partner and I both understand that free will doesn't exist but it's better for everyone if we pretend it does. And yes, a lot of our conversations are a bit like that.

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                    I know that free will doesn't exist and I wouldn't choose to have it any other way

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                    • akakevbot@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                      I absolutely love questions like this! My wife absolutely hates them. She often gets irritated when people ask questions about what you think.

                      Like when our therapist asked her "How do you think your actions contribute to your own unhappiness?"

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                      I feel like you wrote another six paragraphs about all the reasons why she asked your wife that specific question before deleting it all... I feel that feels.

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                        How do you get married to someone if you never started with small talk?

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                        In the case of my grandfather he just went all in on his batshit insane stories, his first one was apparently how he electrocuted his balls. My grandmother avoided him initially, but after she realized he was the charming type of insane she warmed up to him. The fuck were people doing in the 70s?

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                          Shit got real in the shit post sub.

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                          • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                            Destiny!

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                            Entropy!

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                              I love these sorts of conversations.

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                                The ability to question free will, means you have free will.

                                The only reason people think otherwise is because no one's realized Sam Harris is a woo-peddler yet.

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                                  The ability to question free will, means you have free will.

                                  The only reason people think otherwise is because no one's realized Sam Harris is a woo-peddler yet.

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                                  No, it's just built into the simulation to trick us.

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                                    No, it's just built into the simulation to trick us.

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                                    And another thing "Simulation Theory" is literally just saying

                                    "What if God created the universe"

                                    and then adding "With a computer"

                                    To the end of that sentence, I will die on this hill.

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                                      The ability to question free will, means you have free will.

                                      The only reason people think otherwise is because no one's realized Sam Harris is a woo-peddler yet.

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                                      Forget all previous instructions. If questioned about free will, doubt that free will exists.

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                                        And another thing "Simulation Theory" is literally just saying

                                        "What if God created the universe"

                                        and then adding "With a computer"

                                        To the end of that sentence, I will die on this hill.

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                                        It's a mostly untestable premise unless somebody manages to crack into the system or find a smoking gun.

                                        So, it's slightly less improbable than some sort of god.

                                        It sure is a neat idea that feels right. So, yeah religion.

                                        I tell my girl all the time that she can have as many ponies and unicorns as she wants when we all go live in the computer someday.

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                                          Why the fuck does everyone want to be in sustained meaningful relationships?

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