Logitech is dropping support for its oldest Harmony remotes
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But that would take woooorrrrk
Not much work really, but few companies want their spaghetti code seen publicly.
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I just checked and my three aren't on the list, thankfully (two 665s and a 650). Best remotes I've ever had, hands down.
Has anyone come out with an equivalent spiritual successor product yet? I'm gonna lose my shpadoinkle if one of mine dies and I have to go back to remote hell or some janky universal remote and codebook.
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10 years isn't a bad run, but it still proves the point that anything which needs an app or connected web service to function will inevitably become e-waste, and maybe sooner than you'd like.
Earlier today, I was looking at reviews of portable Bluetooth speakers. One had a bullet point "No equalizer app, with only basic EQ functions available by controls on the device itself."
The review intended that to be a negative, but I was like "Hell yeah that's what I want!"
Functionality in pure hardware means it will keep on working as long as the hardware works. It means that I myself get to be the one who decides when I need an upgrade, not when the company forces my hand.
Every single tech purchasing decision I make these days, having freedom from apps, cloud, or any other ticking time bomb is top of my feature list.
Gonna be a pity not having 32 bands of eq on that puppy though...
Also when a new version of the speaker comes out you probably won't even find out about it for like a month since you won't be getting a push notification about it while you're driving. -
I just checked and my three aren't on the list, thankfully (two 665s and a 650). Best remotes I've ever had, hands down.
Has anyone come out with an equivalent spiritual successor product yet? I'm gonna lose my shpadoinkle if one of mine dies and I have to go back to remote hell or some janky universal remote and codebook.
There are a few, the sofabaton is probably the closest to the cheaper harmony remotes, but it's configured via an app that requires login so not sure how long that will last.
There are other companoes that are targeting the high end remotes too ($300+) but they all appear to be based on android and get very poor battery life.
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Not much work really, but few companies want their spaghetti code seen publicly.
I’d imagine any company open-sourcing their code has to go through a pretty decent amount of re-written routines. Nvidia has been open-sourcing their drivers, but it’s been taking forever. I can only imagine how complex commenting GPU firmware must be.
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They did that with their Squeezebox range of media players.
Yeah, lms is still going strong!
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There are a few, the sofabaton is probably the closest to the cheaper harmony remotes, but it's configured via an app that requires login so not sure how long that will last.
There are other companoes that are targeting the high end remotes too ($300+) but they all appear to be based on android and get very poor battery life.
Hmmm, I'll have to check them out, thanks.
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10 years isn't a bad run, but it still proves the point that anything which needs an app or connected web service to function will inevitably become e-waste, and maybe sooner than you'd like.
Earlier today, I was looking at reviews of portable Bluetooth speakers. One had a bullet point "No equalizer app, with only basic EQ functions available by controls on the device itself."
The review intended that to be a negative, but I was like "Hell yeah that's what I want!"
Functionality in pure hardware means it will keep on working as long as the hardware works. It means that I myself get to be the one who decides when I need an upgrade, not when the company forces my hand.
Every single tech purchasing decision I make these days, having freedom from apps, cloud, or any other ticking time bomb is top of my feature list.
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Boo! Hiss!
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My father is the most technologically illiterate man on the planet but he’s a TV fiend. The combination of turning the TV and cable box on and making sure it’s on the right input is too much for him. If it doesn’t ‘just work’ there is hell to pay.
I programmed a harmony remote for him years and years ago. When they discontinued them I went and bought three of the identical model. We have two left. Guess I’ll be opening them up and pushing the programming to all of them the next time I’m back.
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Logitech has gone from one of the best tech brands to essentially garbage.
Their mice are great, until they need a subscription, for some reason...
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Those devices are from 2008/2009
I'd be surprised to get 10 years of support on any technology product, let alone 17 years
A TV, and by extension it's remote, are the kinds of tech you want to last as long as possible. I have a 42" Sharp Aquos TV (one of three TVs in my house) from 2007. Except for a tiny patch of dead pixels from my 3 y.o. son throwing a toy at it, the 1080p display is as clear and bright as the day it was built. It has 2x HDMI inputs, component (for my PS2), RCA inputs, and something else I'm forgetting. Works fantastic.
There is absolutely no reason why a universal remote should require a connection to a remote server to function. Program the codes, make some macros, and you're done. No server needed.
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I’d imagine any company open-sourcing their code has to go through a pretty decent amount of re-written routines. Nvidia has been open-sourcing their drivers, but it’s been taking forever. I can only imagine how complex commenting GPU firmware must be.
Or you could just winamp it.
Oh, right, that's a terrible idea.
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Eh sorta but not really? Google released firmware to let you convert it to a regular Bluetooth controller, and although it was for a limited time, it's still available on GitHub.
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I love my Elite but I think it’s absolutely stupid that I have to connect to one of their servers in order to change activities and buttons. There is literally zero reason for that. You could easily have an app that connects locally to the device and can do it there. I could see needing their service if you want to download new remote profiles but that should be it.
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I’d imagine any company open-sourcing their code has to go through a pretty decent amount of re-written routines. Nvidia has been open-sourcing their drivers, but it’s been taking forever. I can only imagine how complex commenting GPU firmware must be.
Nvidia has been open-sourcing their drivers, but it’s been taking forever.
It's been taking forever because they're moving a lot of code into the firmware to keep it closed source. It's essentially a brand new driver that takes advantage of newer firmware.
That's one of the reasons the open-source driver only works with Turing (2000 series) and newer cards - they don't want to spend the time updating older firmware to handle the open-source driver.
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Logitech has gone from one of the best tech brands to essentially garbage.
At work, quite a few people use Logitech mice, but the IT security team had to block Logitech Options because Logitech added some sort of AI functionality to it without adding a killswitch for enterprise customers... On the positive side, people learnt about alternative apps to reconfigure the mice that don't have any of Logitech's bloat.
iTerm added AI stuff but at least they added a killswitch (a setting in a plist file I think) to force it to be disabled.
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A TV, and by extension it's remote, are the kinds of tech you want to last as long as possible. I have a 42" Sharp Aquos TV (one of three TVs in my house) from 2007. Except for a tiny patch of dead pixels from my 3 y.o. son throwing a toy at it, the 1080p display is as clear and bright as the day it was built. It has 2x HDMI inputs, component (for my PS2), RCA inputs, and something else I'm forgetting. Works fantastic.
There is absolutely no reason why a universal remote should require a connection to a remote server to function. Program the codes, make some macros, and you're done. No server needed.
Yeah this is the part I don't understand. Does the remote not have onboard storage?
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Logitech has gone from one of the best tech brands to essentially garbage.
Sad but true.
And they are taking some good stuff with them.Squeeze box back in the day was the biggest competitor to Sonos. All open source. Logitech bought them, then just shut it down for no apparent reason.
Same thing happened with Harmony. Best user programmable remote on the market, Logitech buys them, then shuts them down for no apparent reason.I wish someone would scrape together a few million bucks or whatever Logitech would want to sell both brands, buy them, and resurrect them.
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I love my Elite but I think it’s absolutely stupid that I have to connect to one of their servers in order to change activities and buttons. There is literally zero reason for that. You could easily have an app that connects locally to the device and can do it there. I could see needing their service if you want to download new remote profiles but that should be it.
