Logitech is dropping support for its oldest Harmony remotes
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What about open sourcing stuff, instead of making it just "unsupported"?
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What about open sourcing stuff, instead of making it just "unsupported"?
But that would take woooorrrrk
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What about open sourcing stuff, instead of making it just "unsupported"?
They did that with their Squeezebox range of media players.
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Those devices are from 2008/2009
I'd be surprised to get 10 years of support on any technology product, let alone 17 years
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What about open sourcing stuff, instead of making it just "unsupported"?
Often, these include code that they don't have the rights to publish.
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Logitech has gone from one of the best tech brands to essentially garbage.
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10 years isn't a bad run, but it still proves the point that anything which needs an app or connected web service to function will inevitably become e-waste, and maybe sooner than you'd like.
Earlier today, I was looking at reviews of portable Bluetooth speakers. One had a bullet point "No equalizer app, with only basic EQ functions available by controls on the device itself."
The review intended that to be a negative, but I was like "Hell yeah that's what I want!"
Functionality in pure hardware means it will keep on working as long as the hardware works. It means that I myself get to be the one who decides when I need an upgrade, not when the company forces my hand.
Every single tech purchasing decision I make these days, having freedom from apps, cloud, or any other ticking time bomb is top of my feature list.
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Logitech has gone from one of the best tech brands to essentially garbage.
Even their hardware design these days is them copying popular products from smaller tech companies
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Often, these include code that they don't have the rights to publish.
I feel like 99% of the time that's just a lazy or misleading excuse. I've worked in proprietary software development for 25 years and I've never worked for a company that didn't avoid restricted third-party code like the plague at all times. In the few, rare cases when we did have to use some proprietary third-party licensed library, it was usually kept very compartmentalized and easy to drop out of the code specifically because we were always afraid the other proprietary code vendor could fuck us and jack up their prices or find some nasty way to make our lives difficult.
The excuse that there is some secret but legitimate third-party code they're not allowed to share simply doesn't hold water in the vast majority of cases.
More likely answers are that some beancounter somewhere still imagines that the proprietary source code could possibly be valuable in some hypothetical future acquisition (nonsense of course) even though it has no real commercial value, or fears that it could expose the company to liability if some security flaw or licensing violation is found (more plausible).
Ironically, perhaps the most likely reality for this resistance is that the software actually includes code that dictates they were actually always obligated to publish the source but never did. ie, GPL-based code. GPL violations are all too common in proprietary software and very few organizations have codebase governance effective enough to keep the situation under control with developers copy-pasting from anything they can find on Google. Releasing their plagiarized GPL source code would reveal to the world that they were not in compliance all along. Let it quietly die, and nobody ever finds out and they get away with it. It's not simply that they're embarrassed by bad code, it's that their bad code will potentially incriminate them. Not worth the risk, and sometimes it's not just a risk it's a certainty.
The proprietary software industry relies on open source so much and rarely gives much of anything back. I'm fortunate that the company I'm working for now actually takes licensing seriously and does contribute to open source projects to some degree, although I keep insisting they need to do better.
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But that would take woooorrrrk
Not much work really, but few companies want their spaghetti code seen publicly.
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I just checked and my three aren't on the list, thankfully (two 665s and a 650). Best remotes I've ever had, hands down.
Has anyone come out with an equivalent spiritual successor product yet? I'm gonna lose my shpadoinkle if one of mine dies and I have to go back to remote hell or some janky universal remote and codebook.
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10 years isn't a bad run, but it still proves the point that anything which needs an app or connected web service to function will inevitably become e-waste, and maybe sooner than you'd like.
Earlier today, I was looking at reviews of portable Bluetooth speakers. One had a bullet point "No equalizer app, with only basic EQ functions available by controls on the device itself."
The review intended that to be a negative, but I was like "Hell yeah that's what I want!"
Functionality in pure hardware means it will keep on working as long as the hardware works. It means that I myself get to be the one who decides when I need an upgrade, not when the company forces my hand.
Every single tech purchasing decision I make these days, having freedom from apps, cloud, or any other ticking time bomb is top of my feature list.
Gonna be a pity not having 32 bands of eq on that puppy though...
Also when a new version of the speaker comes out you probably won't even find out about it for like a month since you won't be getting a push notification about it while you're driving. -
I just checked and my three aren't on the list, thankfully (two 665s and a 650). Best remotes I've ever had, hands down.
Has anyone come out with an equivalent spiritual successor product yet? I'm gonna lose my shpadoinkle if one of mine dies and I have to go back to remote hell or some janky universal remote and codebook.
There are a few, the sofabaton is probably the closest to the cheaper harmony remotes, but it's configured via an app that requires login so not sure how long that will last.
There are other companoes that are targeting the high end remotes too ($300+) but they all appear to be based on android and get very poor battery life.
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Not much work really, but few companies want their spaghetti code seen publicly.
I’d imagine any company open-sourcing their code has to go through a pretty decent amount of re-written routines. Nvidia has been open-sourcing their drivers, but it’s been taking forever. I can only imagine how complex commenting GPU firmware must be.
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They did that with their Squeezebox range of media players.
Yeah, lms is still going strong!
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There are a few, the sofabaton is probably the closest to the cheaper harmony remotes, but it's configured via an app that requires login so not sure how long that will last.
There are other companoes that are targeting the high end remotes too ($300+) but they all appear to be based on android and get very poor battery life.
Hmmm, I'll have to check them out, thanks.
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10 years isn't a bad run, but it still proves the point that anything which needs an app or connected web service to function will inevitably become e-waste, and maybe sooner than you'd like.
Earlier today, I was looking at reviews of portable Bluetooth speakers. One had a bullet point "No equalizer app, with only basic EQ functions available by controls on the device itself."
The review intended that to be a negative, but I was like "Hell yeah that's what I want!"
Functionality in pure hardware means it will keep on working as long as the hardware works. It means that I myself get to be the one who decides when I need an upgrade, not when the company forces my hand.
Every single tech purchasing decision I make these days, having freedom from apps, cloud, or any other ticking time bomb is top of my feature list.
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Boo! Hiss!
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My father is the most technologically illiterate man on the planet but he’s a TV fiend. The combination of turning the TV and cable box on and making sure it’s on the right input is too much for him. If it doesn’t ‘just work’ there is hell to pay.
I programmed a harmony remote for him years and years ago. When they discontinued them I went and bought three of the identical model. We have two left. Guess I’ll be opening them up and pushing the programming to all of them the next time I’m back.
