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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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    Yeah you definitely didn’t play on Linux for more than 5 minutes

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    I use DAWs, havent had luck with wine not crashing games. So yes. You MUST be right, haven't used Linux at all actually. Just saw a word document about it.
    God you people are the worst

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    • timesquirrel@kbin.melroy.orgT [email protected]

      loose 90% of the games you play as well

      It's 2025, not 2007. This is a huge exaggeration. Maybe try it again sometime.

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      I might when the DAWs I use will work natively.

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        90%?

        Do you only play games with kernel level anti-cheat? Because those are literally the only games i haven't been able to play, and fortunately for me I don't want to play those games.

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        I play many kinds of games. Using a Windows emulator in Linux doesn't count as "running on Linux"

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          No, I use windows 11 and it works great.

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          • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

            Most people won't budge. It doesn't matter if Win10 is unsupported or isn't getting a security update, I reckon a solid 40 of 43% will just stay on it until programs they use stop working.

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            Yep, I feel like people overestimate how much anyone cares about official support or security patches or whatever. People will assume it's fine until they're either forced out or something goes horribly wrong.

            Regular folks will most likely let it be if possible, until it's time for a new PC anyway.

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              Most people won't budge. It doesn't matter if Win10 is unsupported or isn't getting a security update, I reckon a solid 40 of 43% will just stay on it until programs they use stop working.

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              Windows 10 ltsc massgrave.dev

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              • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                Can anyone recommend a distro (and desktop environment?) that's going to be almost the same as desktop mode on the Steam deck? I'm getting more comfortable in that than I expected to be in any Linux, and to my surprise and delight I haven't had to delve into the command line at all yet.

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                The steam deck uses KDE Plasma 5 as its desktop environment, so anything that uses that should feel very similar. I recommend bazzite if familiarity is something that would appeal to you.

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                  You can likely use that same pc for linux if youre open to that

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                  I'm somewhat open to the idea, but the thought of messing up and not having any computer other than my phone until i figure it out is tough to get over.

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                    Already did and it's glorious! Steam works beautifully and the only final thing that I'm missing is Adobe products.

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                    I completely disagree. Debian is not beginner-friendly. Go with Bazzite if your focus is gaming.

                    It is a gaming-focused distribution. It's also an "atomic" distribution, which basically means it's really hard to break it. It's more like Android or IOS where the OS and base system are managed by someone else. They're read-only so you can't accidentally break them.

                    For example, instead of trying to manage your own video card drivers, they come packaged with the base system image, and they're tested to make sure they work with all the other base components.

                    I've been using Linux since the 1990s, so I've run my share of distributions: Slackware, RedHat, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. Even for someone experienced, atomic distributions are great. But, for a newcomer they're so much better.

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                      Yep, I feel like people overestimate how much anyone cares about official support or security patches or whatever. People will assume it's fine until they're either forced out or something goes horribly wrong.

                      Regular folks will most likely let it be if possible, until it's time for a new PC anyway.

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                      Like the climate

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                        Sticking with 10 for a bit, moving to Linux

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                        • icastfist@programming.devI [email protected]

                          Isn't that exactly what's happening as soon as you install win11?

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                          Security wise 11 is better

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                            Isn't that exactly what's happening as soon as you install win11?

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                            To be fair, plenty of telemetry is still being sent by Microsoft in Windows 10. It's not as bad as 11 though.

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                              Right?

                              I never understand why people are so obsessed with not getting updates. They usually just break everything and bloat the OS.

                              "But my security!" OS updates are going to protect you from 99% of the bad actors out there. They do nothing against social engineering. They don't make you use strong passwords. Most of the security flaws OS updates are addressing are the kinda of attacks that only state actors or organized crime rings have the resources and abilities to exploit.

                              Governments? Heck yeah they need to be concerned. Large enterprises? Definitely. Small businesses? Eh it's probably for the best to protect your livelihood even if you aren't the juiciest target. But for an individual using their PC for gaming, social media, streaming content, online shopping, etc... The cost-benefit analysis is different.

                              It's not different from physical security. Theres a reason you don't need to go through TSA to get on a bus.

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                              For now yes but when a zero day is found 1 guy could literally take down every single 10 install and Microsoft won’t be bothered to fix it

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                                I completely disagree. Debian is not beginner-friendly. Go with Bazzite if your focus is gaming.

                                It is a gaming-focused distribution. It's also an "atomic" distribution, which basically means it's really hard to break it. It's more like Android or IOS where the OS and base system are managed by someone else. They're read-only so you can't accidentally break them.

                                For example, instead of trying to manage your own video card drivers, they come packaged with the base system image, and they're tested to make sure they work with all the other base components.

                                I've been using Linux since the 1990s, so I've run my share of distributions: Slackware, RedHat, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. Even for someone experienced, atomic distributions are great. But, for a newcomer they're so much better.

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                                I find this interesting as I'm a beginner with only about 3 months of Linux use under my belt, whereas Ive used Windows since I was like 5 years old. I was originally recommended Mint, like many are, and I found the experience to be a negative one as opposed to my later experience with Debian. (Note I have no experience with Bazzite or any other distros).

                                The additional 'bloat' in Mint obfuscated from me various aspects of Linux. It insulated me from learning how Linux is different from Windows, and that actually hindered me from understanding the OS. By starting with Debian I got a feel for using the CLI, setting up my drivers, package installer, and desktop environment. And, while those aspects can be complicated for new users, i think its somewhat necessary if its going to be recommended them as their OS.

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                                • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                  Can anyone recommend a distro (and desktop environment?) that's going to be almost the same as desktop mode on the Steam deck? I'm getting more comfortable in that than I expected to be in any Linux, and to my surprise and delight I haven't had to delve into the command line at all yet.

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                                  You can also install SteamOS which is literally what the Steam Deck runs.

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                                    I completely disagree. Debian is not beginner-friendly. Go with Bazzite if your focus is gaming.

                                    It is a gaming-focused distribution. It's also an "atomic" distribution, which basically means it's really hard to break it. It's more like Android or IOS where the OS and base system are managed by someone else. They're read-only so you can't accidentally break them.

                                    For example, instead of trying to manage your own video card drivers, they come packaged with the base system image, and they're tested to make sure they work with all the other base components.

                                    I've been using Linux since the 1990s, so I've run my share of distributions: Slackware, RedHat, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. Even for someone experienced, atomic distributions are great. But, for a newcomer they're so much better.

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                                    In what world is a Debian base not beginner friendly my fiancé that could barely use windows is using it just fine

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                                      IIRC W11 share is barely near W10 and they are already forcing it out and crapton of perfectly usable hardware, if it is not planned obsolescence i don't know what it is? Fuck microsoft!

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                                        The steam deck uses KDE Plasma 5 as its desktop environment, so anything that uses that should feel very similar. I recommend bazzite if familiarity is something that would appeal to you.

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                                        +1 for Bazzite. It has just enough guard rails to keep you from (easily) making your system unusable while still providing more freedom than windows. Install is cake. Literally clear a drive or partition for your OS and storage, download it, and you're off to the races.
                                        just make sure to always check your build against protondb For games to see if there are any special run commands to put into steam, and you will be golden.

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                                          Security wise 11 is better

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                                          Depends on how you define security.

                                          Is win11 more cryptographically secure, absolutely.

                                          Does that matter if you don't trust the holder of the keys (the Microsoft keys stored in the tpm) not really.

                                          implementing a more secure platform doesn't mean much if the only way you are doing it is by handing over control to a third party.

                                          Would you trust a better lock on your front door if it meant a proven bad actor was the one who could unlock it?

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