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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • S [email protected]

    I play many kinds of games. Using a Windows emulator in Linux doesn't count as "running on Linux"

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    If the game plays on your linux distro who cares what you call it?

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    • ttangko@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      I'd consider switching if somebody spoonfed me into being able to use/know it's basics.

      I am currently way too overstimulated with switching to privacy-focused and less (US-)corpo-reigned alternatives (like lemmy instead of reddit)

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      I installed Linux on a raspberry pi recently (first time using Linux in 15+ years), and in addition to reading stuff on Lemmy, I found that this is a really good use case for chatgpt or similar LLMs.

      I was able to get chatgpt to explain stuff to me, ask it to dumb it down further, provide examples, correct my incorrect assumptions, etc.

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        Why need upgrade at all? I've never needed "support" before

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          I still use steam on Windows 7. I don't see the problem.

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          Do you worry about connecting it to the internet?

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            Jumping to Linux for sure. The hardest part is going to be finding time to learn it first...

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            Have you considered making a Linux virtual machine now, and learning small things a few minutes at a time between other tasks? That ought to give you a head start when it comes time to commit.

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              Been using Linux for years and the only issue with it is the incompetence of big studios. And them going out of their way to make sure stuff doesn't work on Linux.

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              • S [email protected]

                Why need upgrade at all? I've never needed "support" before

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                I hope this is a sarcastic joke.

                If it’s not, support means updates. More importantly security updates.

                There is a reason you don’t put a windows XP machine on the internet.

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                • S [email protected]

                  Why need upgrade at all? I've never needed "support" before

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                  The "support" most importantly includes security updates. You better bet every hacking group has been working at finding fresh zero days for Windows 10 and is stockpiling them to start hammering any PCs that can't be upgraded this October

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                  • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    I installed Linux on a raspberry pi recently (first time using Linux in 15+ years), and in addition to reading stuff on Lemmy, I found that this is a really good use case for chatgpt or similar LLMs.

                    I was able to get chatgpt to explain stuff to me, ask it to dumb it down further, provide examples, correct my incorrect assumptions, etc.

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                    LLMs have been trained so heavily on Linux documentation that you can even have it hallucinate a Linux terminal at you!

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Switch to Linux. As a big-time gamer, I did it last year and it’s been fantastic. Only issue is if you main games with root kit anticheat…but with enough momentum in Linux direction, game studios will be forced to abandon those dubious detection methods anyway.

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                      Another big component that makes it hard to switch for some is also the fact that many programs and web apps won’t work on Linux.

                      As an example , if you use peacock on your browser to watch things like wrestling PLEs, peacock(and other services) straight up block Linux users.

                      It’s annoying when the product will work but it’s being gatekept by these greedy fucking companies.

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                        Why? Nothing requires Windows 11. It doesn't even have a new directx which is why most had to upgrade from 7. Browsers and malware software will work for years. Hell malwarbytes still updates for Window 7.

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                        You really don’t understand security updates.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Why need upgrade at all? I've never needed "support" before

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                          Think of it this way:

                          Would you rather leave door wide open and signs saying come inside and take all the info about me, along with all my moment

                          Or

                          Have your data, & money protected in all kinds of defense systems so it makes billions times harder to take all of that

                          That's what security updates are for. Same for other apps as well when they find things bad actors will try to exploit

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                            I’m on 12, and will be upgrading to 13 when Trixie hits stable.

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                              Would you mind sharing a couple of the names of the programs that only work on Windows for you? I'm a bit curious.

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                              I'm not the OP but I have a similar situation. I work in multimedia design and use a wide array of software from the full Adobe suite, to in-house command line apps, to the Articulate suite and everything in between.

                              I'd love to be on Linux but that just isn't a possibility for me.

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                              • dave@lemmy.nzD [email protected]

                                How does Bazzite fare when I want to do something a bit different. Install docker, Python, PHP, sqlite, etc. I'd normally just install them, but does this work for Bazzite and other atomic/immutable distros?

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                                So, there are multiple ways of installing things. For GUI apps the standard way is flatpaks. Some non-GUI things are installed that way, but it's less common.

                                For CLI apps, homebrew is installed by default and it's recommended as a way to install CLI things.

                                The method I like for apps that have a lot of interdependencies is to use a distrobox. If you want a development environment where multiple apps all talk to each-other, you can isolate them on their own distrobox and install them however you like there.

                                I currently have a distrobox running ubuntu that I use for a kubernetes project. In that distrobox I install anything I need with apt, or sometimes from source. Within that kubernetes project I use mise-en-place to manage tools just for that particular sub-project. What I like about doing things this way is that when I'm working on that project I have all the tools I need, and don't have to worry about the tools for other projects. My base bazzite image is basically unchanged, but my k8s project is highly customized.

                                If you really want to, you can still install RPMs as overlays to the base system, it's just not recommended because that slows down upgrades.

                                More details here:

                                https://docs.bazzite.gg/Installing_and_Managing_Software/

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  Think of it this way:

                                  Would you rather leave door wide open and signs saying come inside and take all the info about me, along with all my moment

                                  Or

                                  Have your data, & money protected in all kinds of defense systems so it makes billions times harder to take all of that

                                  That's what security updates are for. Same for other apps as well when they find things bad actors will try to exploit

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                                  In fairness, after October that security system will still be in place. The difference is that as soon as attackers finds a bypass, the security system will be worthless against future threats

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                                    Would you mind sharing a couple of the names of the programs that only work on Windows for you? I'm a bit curious.

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                                    I'm not Tyler Bourbon, but it's Fusion 360 for me. I sound like a broken record at this point, but it's the only piece of software that keeps a windows install in my house

                                    Hey Autodesk you should put F360 on Linux

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                                    • zewm@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                                      Another big component that makes it hard to switch for some is also the fact that many programs and web apps won’t work on Linux.

                                      As an example , if you use peacock on your browser to watch things like wrestling PLEs, peacock(and other services) straight up block Linux users.

                                      It’s annoying when the product will work but it’s being gatekept by these greedy fucking companies.

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                                      Are they somehow able to detect the OS by something other than the user agent headers or have you tried changing your user agent?

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                                        Sadly I use way too many programs that only work on windows or Mac that Linux would handicap me. The free open source versions of yhe apps I use are no where near as capable.

                                        My only option I can think of would be running a virtual machine of Win10 on a Linux install so I can still use those apps.

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                                        Unfortunately, any app that needs a GPU would be difficult to work with in a VM. You have to manually set up GPU-passthru, which requires figuring out the PCI addresses and whatnot of your card, along with using a terminal. As I understand it, this process also prevents you from using that GPU outside of the VM, which is cruddy.

                                        I was hoping to have a Linux Mint + Windows 11 VM back in January, but that didn't work out. I am hoping that the upcoming SteamOS Desktop would make Linux friendly enough for games that aren't native to Steam, such as my GOG collection, Window 3.1 stuff like Stars!, modding, and assorted Japanese locale games.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Depends on how you define security.

                                          Is win11 more cryptographically secure, absolutely.

                                          Does that matter if you don't trust the holder of the keys (the Microsoft keys stored in the tpm) not really.

                                          implementing a more secure platform doesn't mean much if the only way you are doing it is by handing over control to a third party.

                                          Would you trust a better lock on your front door if it meant a proven bad actor was the one who could unlock it?

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                                          If the EU is allowed to employ guards in MS's buildings and to roll their own secured version of Windows, I wouldn't mind sticking to Windows 11 EU. On the other paw, if DOGE is given access to Microsoft, I shall flee to Linux. Hopefully, SteamOS Desktop will be a thing if the latter happens.

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