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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • G [email protected]

    I switched to linux full time almost a year ago.

    I have been thus far entirely unsuccessful in convincing anyone else to make the jump. Normal people do not give a fuck, will not lift a finger to improve their digital lives. I've been telling friends and family about adblockers for YEARS, and not a single one ever bothered to do it of their own volition. If I don't do it for them, then they just sit through ads like complacent sheep. None of them are going to change operating systems if they can't even install a browser extension.

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    I really just don't understand this. Folks will not lift a finger or a brain cell to figure out tech.

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      I have 11, so not directly affected. But with "no more security updates" being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?

      I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.

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        I am going to attempt to switch to Linux, I'm definitely not going to willingly use windows platforms again.

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        I bought a new computer a few years ago that has 11 on it. With how the Steam Deck has seemed to really promote Linux for gaming, I'm seriously considering it on my next build.

        It is very obvious to me that Windows is becoming increasingly subject to enshittification.

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          I really just don't understand this. Folks will not lift a finger or a brain cell to figure out tech.

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          I was thinking about this earlier today for myself. Not specifically about computers, but the same principle. If I have something that bugs me and wastes 10 seconds of my time every single day but I could permanently fix the problem in an hour - logically it's worth fixing. Even if it eventually saves time, I have to invest an hour of time and brainpower right now. If it's something I don't really care about, it's just not worth it. I don't need that hassle, I'll just have a small annoyance every day instead of a big annoyance today. I've got better things to do. Like browsing Lemmy apparently

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            If ya want to not be plugged into the internet, or use new external media, ya can probably run it safely forever.

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              I have 11, so not directly affected. But with "no more security updates" being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?

              I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.

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              It should be easy to get updates with a little hacky help, they'll be available on the long term support schedule.

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                I've been daily-driving Linux Mint (LMDE 6) on my Thinkpad T14 G1 for almost a year now. At this point, that laptop is easily the most dependable machine I've ever had. My gaming PC is the last remaining Windows machine in my house. Recently I've been making sure everything is backed up (Syncthing is great for this) and finding alternatives for programs that don't have a Linux version.

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                  I have 11, so not directly affected. But with "no more security updates" being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?

                  I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.

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                  Windows 10 LTSC gets updates for a while longer. I forget the exact number, but I wanna say it goes into the 2030s?

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                    If ya want to not be plugged into the internet, or use new external media, ya can probably run it safely forever.

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                    That's my plan so far. I just use it for emulators anyway.

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                      All you guys said is true. You could get hacked blah blah blah. But to a gamer, a machine exclusively for gaming doesn't take any of that as a concern. Want to hack my machine? Go ahead! As long as you don't delete my games, be my guest. I don't save credit card information on it anyway.

                      But none of that happens in my case. I don't game on or run Windows. I'm just here to provide a point of view.

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                      Your local network is compromised, not just 1 windows device. It could potentially leak enough personal information for more targeted attacks.

                      The chances are slim but AI may enable targeted hacking at scale. I simply wouldn't risk downloading shit on a device with known security vulnerabilities, without any scope of fixes.

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                        Made the jump to Linux. No issues so far, very happy with the switch

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                          yeah i need star citizen, ableton, fl studio, premier, photoshop and more before i can dedicate a jump to linux

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                            Thanks for the tips!

                            Lutris I've used with some success, and I'm somewhat ok with wine when it works out if the box (or troubleshooting using the wine wiki).

                            Do you recommend any other sites/guides for troubleshooting?

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                            Bottles is just a GUI to help you set up wine environments without having to deal with wine directly.

                            For troubleshooting just the lutris forums and wine bugtracker. I mostly play steam games so protondb is the best source of troubleshooting tips.

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                              I bought a new computer a few years ago that has 11 on it. With how the Steam Deck has seemed to really promote Linux for gaming, I'm seriously considering it on my next build.

                              It is very obvious to me that Windows is becoming increasingly subject to enshittification.

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                              Yeah, proton seems to really work wonders, and it seems it's only going to get better. I have windows 11 on my work laptop and I hate it.

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                                I don't really use the browser on that machine. It still has basic virus protection, and such.

                                End of security support is no joke.

                                Well that all depends on if you're laughing.

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                                Using a browser isn't the only way it would be connected to the internet though, I know for sure there are malware bots actively searching for network connected XP machines that can brick systems just for existing on a public network, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same wasn't the case for 7. Anti-virus can only do so much for you if you're a victim of ransomware or some remote execution exploit found since EOL

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                                  yeah i need star citizen, ableton, fl studio, premier, photoshop and more before i can dedicate a jump to linux

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                                  don't forget that LTSC is also a solution, you don't have to give in to 11

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                                    too late already did switch to linux :3

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                                    • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                      Only semi-related: Why do they always show pictures of Gates when he hasn't been involved in MS in a long time? Why never Satya Nadella?

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                                      Under his watch they did form the anti-opensource and EEE mantra

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                                        Been Linux exclusively for 20 years. Win 11 sure isn't going to change that

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                                        Imagine that, Windows 11 can remember everything you did in the past 3 months, it's making sure that you didn't forget about Office 365, Xbox Live subscriptions, and about Edge, the browser embedded deeply in the OS...

                                        Sometimes, for your convenience, it will put Edge as the default, but you totally can change it back to what it was!

                                        Are you sure you don't want to switch? You're missing a lot there...

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                                          Most problems people have with Linux, I think, come from trying to be Linux power users from the start by performing very advanced techniques beyond their time and patience: dual booting multiple operating systems (so they don't have to buy Linux-dedicated hardware), using any graphics card (the latest and greatest GPUs are all closed source and developers who work on Linux do so because they despise closed source), using the least expensive hardware (which are typically closed source and buggy with anything except Windows), and emulating Windows apps so they don't have to learn new workflows or abandon their favorite games (technically, Proton with Steam allows Windows games like FFXIV to be played, but it's a neverending journey to get it working and keeping it working.

                                          If you switch to Linux, accept that for a smooth experience you'll have to pay more than you would for a Windows machine (e.g. System76, Framework)
                                          And if you want graphics card support for your emulated Windows games on Steam, you're going to have to use the specific flavor of Linux the manufacturer supports.

                                          That said, if you value free/libre open source software, then making the switch from Windows is totally worth it.

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