6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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I won't be doing pretty much anything about it. I have 10 pro, I don't really give a shit about what Microsoft thinks I should do. My computer is behind a firewall, and bluntly, it'll be a while before the security issues become such a problem that I need to go and upgrade.
However. I already did the legwork. I went out and upgraded the hardware TPM 1.2 in my system to TPM 2.0, and I picked up some (relatively cheap) Windows 11 pro product keys. I can upgrade if I want.
I also have access to W10 LTSC, so I can always pivot to that if I need to.
I get the security and other concerns with Windows 10. I do, but the windows 11 changes, to me seem like they're changes for the sake of things being changed. Windows 10's user experience was already quite good, apart from the fact that every feature release seemed to have the settings moved to a different location (see above about making changes for the sake of making changes). IMO, as a professional sysadmin and IT support, the interface and UX changes have made Windows, as a product, worse; it is by far the worst part of the upgrade process and I don't know why they thought any of it was a good idea.
I also hate what M$ has done with printers, but I won't get started on that right now.For all the nitpicking I could do, Windows was, for all intents and purposes, exactly what it needed to be, between Windows 7 and 10. There hasn't been any meaningful progress in the OS that's mattered since x86-64 support was added. Windows 10 32 bit was extremely rare, I don't think I ever saw it (where W7 was a mixed bag of 32/64 bit). Having almost everyone standardized on 64 bit, and Windows 10, gave a predictability that is needed in most businesses. The professional products should not follow the same trends as the home products. If they want to put AI shovelware and ads into the home products, fine. Revamp the vast majority of the control panel into the settings menu, sure. But leave the business products as-is. By far the most problems that people have with Windows 11 that I hear about, relate to how everything changes/looks different, and/or having problems navigating the "new look" or whatever the fuck.
Microsoft: you had a good thing with Windows 10, and you pissed it all away when you put out the crap that is Windows 11.
Stop moving shit around, making controls less useful, and stop making it look like the UX was designed by a 10 year old. Fuck off.
Install size has gone up, its sluggish on my surface pro 7, its constantly wanting to grab my attention to put towards their other products, windows 10 was bad as it seemed to be ms's first iteration of their now billboard, but at least I could offline install, make a local account and mostly be left alone. And windows 11 is aweful for its kiddy gloves.
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Drivers being outdated is not a big deal, unless you use recent hardware, then it might make sense to make a jump to current testing release (trixie), or just stay on testing indefinitely.
It's definitely a good thing if you're interested and knowledgeable enough to build what you want. I was just arguing it's not the best choice for a casual user because a lot things they'll want won't work out of the box.
Even updating to the next stable Debian version requires editing system files and running the command line.
Drivers can matter quite a bit if for example you're on an Nvidia card and the Debian drivers are 2 years old. It happened to me and caused dlss to not work in some games.
I run a Debian server and it's amazing for that.
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It's definitely a good thing if you're interested and knowledgeable enough to build what you want. I was just arguing it's not the best choice for a casual user because a lot things they'll want won't work out of the box.
Even updating to the next stable Debian version requires editing system files and running the command line.
Drivers can matter quite a bit if for example you're on an Nvidia card and the Debian drivers are 2 years old. It happened to me and caused dlss to not work in some games.
I run a Debian server and it's amazing for that.
I definitely agree with most of the points but I don't get what do you mean that you can't move to testing, because that's what I literally did recently by upgrading from bookworm to trixie with no issues whatsoever.
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Just bought a laptop and put bazzite on it to try it out and figure out if I can do all the things I want to do on it. If that all works out I'll be switching my desktop over.
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I thought I read some time ago that Windoze 10 would be the last version of Windoze ever...
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I definitely agree with most of the points but I don't get what do you mean that you can't move to testing, because that's what I literally did recently by upgrading from bookworm to trixie with no issues whatsoever.
When I tried it, testing was on the same version of Nvidia drivers as stable so it didn't solve my problem. It was possible to manually backport them, but it wasn't straightforward to do.
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I thought I read some time ago that Windoze 10 would be the last version of Windoze ever...
Yeah I remember thr same thing. Everything else was suppose to be a package update.
But back-end technology and usage expectations change, and there's a limit to what front-end changes an existing user tolerates. That was never a promise they could keep.
It has lasted a really long time, though. I don't decry 11 existing. I'm upset they're sunsetting 10 without giving us a chance to wait for 11 to get better, let alone for 'oops we fixed the fuckups' W12.
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Me too brother, but I disagree with your assessment on value
An non-blacklisted residential IP address with reasonable throughput is valuable in and of itself. DDOS botnets, proxies to bypass geo blocks or to obfuscate illicit traffic, etc. Also your gaming PC could be used for distributed compute workloads of compromised, usually crypto mining.
Any hardware/connection has value if it's "free". It's just a numbers game beyond that.
You've convinced me. They want access to my connection and maybe some processing power; they DON'T want my dungeons and dragons notes.
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New GPUs don’t work on Linux? Where did you get that idea from?
I had the same question, my 6750xt works just fine and it's fairly new.
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don't forget that LTSC is also a solution, you don't have to give in to 11
There's nothing wrong with windows 11 imo
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I'm not sure about the specific AI apps you mention, but from my personal experience the "AMD works way better than Nvidia on Linux" mindset is no longer a thing.
When I upgraded to a new gpu a few years ago, I first got an AMD gpu because of that mindset that was all over the internet (I believed them), but for the life of me I couldn't get games to run properly with it. A week later I traded it for an Nvidia card and it just works.
I do suffer from system wake from sleep issues that I think are the nvidia drivers fault, but atleast I can play games if I decide to.
Can I ask what distro you're running? Some of the gaming-focused ones like Bazzite still seem to gather some comments about working better with AMD, though it seems like there are some workarounds. I am resolved to leave Microsoft behind completely at the W11 switch so I'm trying to get my bearings!
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I thought I read some time ago that Windoze 10 would be the last version of Windoze ever...
Well, it can be the last version of Windows for you.
Ubuntu is nice. I use it daily. Others in my family too. And there are other options too. I hear Mint is nice though I haven't used it much.
Give it some thought.
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Already switched to Nobara. Only have Windows dual boot because Space Engineers Multiplayer doesn't seem to work on Linux.
Been perfectly happy with Nobara. Windows is dead to me and I'm free from my League addiction.
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If it's a her, you mean fiancée, fiancé is used only for men. And, it's basically a chromebook in how she uses it. But, chromebooks are designed so that you never have to do any system administration. You never have to upgrade drivers or figure out how to get to the next release.
She probably hasn't had to deal with that yet, but eventually the system will have to be updated. Over time, cruft piles up and makes it harder and harder to upgrade and manage. Atomic distributions are designed to be much more like chromebooks. Someone else manages the upgrades and the tricky choices, and then you just install their base image.
Autocorrect on my phone always chooses fiancé for some damn reason but I showed her how to update when I set it up for her and she’s been keeping up with it checking once a week and she’s had a couple questions I’ve had to answer but less then when she was just trying to do basic things on windows so it’s been great for me
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I thought I read some time ago that Windoze 10 would be the last version of Windoze ever...
i remember it as "the last version of windows you'll ever need" and they were absolutely correct.
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New GPUs don’t work on Linux? Where did you get that idea from?
Got a 7900xtx a few days ago and worked out of the box. Had to update the drivers after install but that took 5 minutes.
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Yeah I’m aware of openrgb, it has limited compatibility but seems to work ok for most of my stuff. Still haven’t found a great way to run my favorite corsair keyboard reactive lighting theme I had setup with their software in windows, but what I came up with in openrgb is good enough.
However, I didn’t think it was possible to run autoIt or autoHotkey at all in Linux. Are you suggesting a Python script to replace it, or something else? AHK has a very peculiar syntax which I don’t believe would translate well to other languages.
Depends if your on x11 or Wayland ahk does have a port to x11 scripts do require modification otherwise ydotool is available on Wayland I haven’t done much research into it but appears it can do a lot of what you might want
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I'm using 10+ years old hardware, Microsoft has already told me I can't upgrade, followed by several messages asking me to upgrade...
In other news, Linux Mint works nice and I just need to check Protondb to get Warframe running at frames per second and not seconds per frame
if you're on Linux mint, check to see if mint itself is out of date. When I installed mint, the only install media I could find was 2 versions behind. Getting to the current version fixed my warframe problems.
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I'm a lifelong Windows user and tried Linux many many times but could never wrap my head around it. Recently I installed Nobara and it's exactly the noob-friendly experience I need. All of my games run flawlessly, even the VR game I play. And everything is just FASTER. I never realized how bloated Windows was until now. I can't imagine going back to Windows at this point.
What headset? I have my Index mostly working on Nobara, but can't figure out how to get it to show as an audio device.
