6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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I won't be doing pretty much anything about it. I have 10 pro, I don't really give a shit about what Microsoft thinks I should do. My computer is behind a firewall, and bluntly, it'll be a while before the security issues become such a problem that I need to go and upgrade.
However. I already did the legwork. I went out and upgraded the hardware TPM 1.2 in my system to TPM 2.0, and I picked up some (relatively cheap) Windows 11 pro product keys. I can upgrade if I want.
I also have access to W10 LTSC, so I can always pivot to that if I need to.
I get the security and other concerns with Windows 10. I do, but the windows 11 changes, to me seem like they're changes for the sake of things being changed. Windows 10's user experience was already quite good, apart from the fact that every feature release seemed to have the settings moved to a different location (see above about making changes for the sake of making changes). IMO, as a professional sysadmin and IT support, the interface and UX changes have made Windows, as a product, worse; it is by far the worst part of the upgrade process and I don't know why they thought any of it was a good idea.
I also hate what M$ has done with printers, but I won't get started on that right now.For all the nitpicking I could do, Windows was, for all intents and purposes, exactly what it needed to be, between Windows 7 and 10. There hasn't been any meaningful progress in the OS that's mattered since x86-64 support was added. Windows 10 32 bit was extremely rare, I don't think I ever saw it (where W7 was a mixed bag of 32/64 bit). Having almost everyone standardized on 64 bit, and Windows 10, gave a predictability that is needed in most businesses. The professional products should not follow the same trends as the home products. If they want to put AI shovelware and ads into the home products, fine. Revamp the vast majority of the control panel into the settings menu, sure. But leave the business products as-is. By far the most problems that people have with Windows 11 that I hear about, relate to how everything changes/looks different, and/or having problems navigating the "new look" or whatever the fuck.
Microsoft: you had a good thing with Windows 10, and you pissed it all away when you put out the crap that is Windows 11.
Stop moving shit around, making controls less useful, and stop making it look like the UX was designed by a 10 year old. Fuck off.
Microsoft: you had a good thing with Windows <previous version>, and you pissed it all away when you put out the crap that is Windows <new version>.
Ftfy.
That said, there is something to be said for how popular Windows is, and the modifications and QoL improvements offered by 3rd party devs.
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I run Fedora KDE now, but I’m going to keep my Windows 10 install on Windows 10.
How are you finding it?
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If only we had a reason to upgrade.
Instead, we have many reasons not to.Yea just set up a windows 11 pc for the first time and the experience was basically:
It forces you into making a Microsoft account or log in with one, then it told me mine was locked even though I was able to log in fine elsewhere. I had to use the alternate log in method to get in (I know you can make a local account but I already had one set up for this).
Then it tries to force you to "back up from your old pc" which this was an entirely different system so I'm not even sure why I would want that.
Then it tries to convince you to send them a bunch of telemetry while reminding you that you'll still get ads if you don't, they just won't be targeted towards you.
Then it tries to push microsoft office on you.
Then it needs to do updates which took like 45 minutes.
Then you're finally at the desktop where you get probably half a dozen othe pop ups between windows and the vendor.
Then it's "usable"
By comparison Bazzite took like 20 minutes to get to a usable desktop and isn't nagging me about ads at all. I have a laundry list of things still to figure out but so far way less annoying.
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I really just don't understand this. Folks will not lift a finger or a brain cell to figure out tech.
These are the people that companies like Apple pander to, with the whole "it just works" schtick.
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I want to move to Linux, but I need to be able to use the VPN service my work uses and I'm just not sure how to get it working on Linux. I should just dual boot.
Dual-booting was how I first got into Linux; it truly leaves open the ability to keep everything you're worried about not having.
What's the VPN?
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Anybody tried a steam deck with dock? Gaming and casual desktop should be doable with that.
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My Windows 10 PC's only function at this point is to play FFXIV in my living room, so I'm not super worried about viruses or anything.
But maybe eventually I'll switch to Linux on that box and do that weird set-up to get FFXIV running there.
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When ML training farms run out of new text to train on, "they" may very well want your original writing too...
Mother of god. They might steal my 'Brown' Elemental, that eats excrement and excretes clean, potable water. It will cimb up your ass and kill you if you sleep in the sewers. They definitely are going to steal this, specially.
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I want to move to Linux, but I need to be able to use the VPN service my work uses and I'm just not sure how to get it working on Linux. I should just dual boot.
Without prodding too much into what VPN you work uses
Most VPN solutions run on linux just fine, even Microsoft PPTP VPN solution works fine. I would probably check with your IT department what protocol they use and any connection caveats (like machine certificates used for authentication) and look into the different VPN solutions (some examples; WireGuard and OpenVPN are very well supported, IPSec (libreswan or strongswan are options here) depends on setup, PPTP/L2TP should work with most setups (I have to admin I havn't touched those enough), vpnc works with Cisco base IPsec setups and openconnect works with most SSL VPN connection)
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Anybody tried a steam deck with dock? Gaming and casual desktop should be doable with that.
Steam deck with dock is amazing. I picked up a dock about 6 months ago and have gotten so much use out of it.
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Without prodding too much into what VPN you work uses
Most VPN solutions run on linux just fine, even Microsoft PPTP VPN solution works fine. I would probably check with your IT department what protocol they use and any connection caveats (like machine certificates used for authentication) and look into the different VPN solutions (some examples; WireGuard and OpenVPN are very well supported, IPSec (libreswan or strongswan are options here) depends on setup, PPTP/L2TP should work with most setups (I have to admin I havn't touched those enough), vpnc works with Cisco base IPsec setups and openconnect works with most SSL VPN connection)
It's Watchguard. Though looking at their site, it seems like there might be support that I wasn't able to find last time I looked into this. Definitely want to dual boot at some point. I've got a Surface Book 3 though, and I know it needs special kernel stuff to get working properly, so I'd almost rather just wait until my boss retires and everyone's out of a job to dive into Linux. Easier than finding spare time in my life. Living the dream
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Yea just set up a windows 11 pc for the first time and the experience was basically:
It forces you into making a Microsoft account or log in with one, then it told me mine was locked even though I was able to log in fine elsewhere. I had to use the alternate log in method to get in (I know you can make a local account but I already had one set up for this).
Then it tries to force you to "back up from your old pc" which this was an entirely different system so I'm not even sure why I would want that.
Then it tries to convince you to send them a bunch of telemetry while reminding you that you'll still get ads if you don't, they just won't be targeted towards you.
Then it tries to push microsoft office on you.
Then it needs to do updates which took like 45 minutes.
Then you're finally at the desktop where you get probably half a dozen othe pop ups between windows and the vendor.
Then it's "usable"
By comparison Bazzite took like 20 minutes to get to a usable desktop and isn't nagging me about ads at all. I have a laundry list of things still to figure out but so far way less annoying.
- There is a workaround for installing win 11 with local account, it's still horseshit
- the fact that they think that just because they still show ads it's ok in any way shape or form to collect any personal information is insane
- don't forget they are also trying to screen record 24/7 and then store it in the cloud (yes they store it "locally" in you appdata, that they then decided to sync with OneDrive)
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How are you finding it?
No complaints about Fedora KDE specifically. I've had it on my spare laptop since version 30 or so. Desktop is on 41 now. The only "issues" I've had running this full-time is lack of support for Fidelity Active Trader Pro (which kinda sucks anyway), I haven't been able to make my bluetooth shipping label printer work yet, and I haven't gotten my Logi MX Keys / Master S mouse working as it works in Logi Options (on windows or mac) to switch over to my work mac as intended. Otherwise, I prefer it to other distros I've used.
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it's a death by a thousand cuts situation, more friction to use a local account, less convenience in accessing rarely used settings (most recently I was trying to help someone change a setting located in the advanced power management control panel thing), more pressure to use edge, continuing to shove one-drive down our throats, copilot, implementing features that knowingly make third party tools work significanly less well without proper customization to fix it, weirdness around Multi-Display setups on laptops, the maps app getting worse at giving directions.
So.. in my experience edge runs better than all other browsers with the ability to mute individual tabs without an addon. I disabled copilot. I disabled one drive and use local storage only. All settings can be accessed by just typing what you want in the search bar. If you need advanced settings for anything you just click the button that says "advanced settings"
To me it's fairly simple, but it's all I've ever used. My Mac knowledge is minimal and my Linux knowledge is also minimal, so for me both those OS's are difficult to use and navigate.
I also like the ability to double click something to install it and not have to open a command box and do child coding just to use something.So I get what your saying. If I had Linux only for the last 30 years I would also find windows to be confusing and stupid.
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It's Watchguard. Though looking at their site, it seems like there might be support that I wasn't able to find last time I looked into this. Definitely want to dual boot at some point. I've got a Surface Book 3 though, and I know it needs special kernel stuff to get working properly, so I'd almost rather just wait until my boss retires and everyone's out of a job to dive into Linux. Easier than finding spare time in my life. Living the dream
I have not any experience with WatchGuard, but it from some quick searching around it seems to not be far from the easiest to set up for linux. dual-booting is probably the easier solution.
I hope you find a solution to what sounds like not the best life situation, and may you have an otherwise have a nice Linux journey.
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No complaints about Fedora KDE specifically. I've had it on my spare laptop since version 30 or so. Desktop is on 41 now. The only "issues" I've had running this full-time is lack of support for Fidelity Active Trader Pro (which kinda sucks anyway), I haven't been able to make my bluetooth shipping label printer work yet, and I haven't gotten my Logi MX Keys / Master S mouse working as it works in Logi Options (on windows or mac) to switch over to my work mac as intended. Otherwise, I prefer it to other distros I've used.
Thanks for the feedback - currently weighing up disros (was thinking mint, but a few folks have praised fedora KDE based distros now).
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Depends if your on x11 or Wayland ahk does have a port to x11 scripts do require modification otherwise ydotool is available on Wayland I haven’t done much research into it but appears it can do a lot of what you might want
Hey that’s pretty cool, I happen to be on x11 still but plan to switch to Wayland once Cosmic is in beta.
This is great info, will look into this further. Ty!
