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GuliKit wants you to know it’s already working on joystick upgrades for the Switch 2.

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      It's unacceptable that in year 2025 companies are refusing to make controllers with hall effect sensors. At this point I can't think of it as anything other than planned obsolesence in order to sell replacement Joy-cons.

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        It's unacceptable that in year 2025 companies are refusing to make controllers with hall effect sensors. At this point I can't think of it as anything other than planned obsolesence in order to sell replacement Joy-cons.

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        From my understanding, hall effect sticks won't work in switch 2 joycons, due to magnetic interference from the attachment mechanism. Instead, they would need something else - I hear TMR would be resistant to the magnetic interference.

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          From my understanding, hall effect sticks won't work in switch 2 joycons, due to magnetic interference from the attachment mechanism. Instead, they would need something else - I hear TMR would be resistant to the magnetic interference.

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          Is that actually true, or just internet speculation? I remember reading counter points that other devices with magnets used Hall effect sticks without issues.

          The thing is, even the new Pro controller uses potentiometers for the sticks, so I doubt magnetic interference to Hall effect sticks was even a consideration in the Nintendo engineers minds. They were going full potentiometer from day 1.

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            Is that actually true, or just internet speculation? I remember reading counter points that other devices with magnets used Hall effect sticks without issues.

            The thing is, even the new Pro controller uses potentiometers for the sticks, so I doubt magnetic interference to Hall effect sticks was even a consideration in the Nintendo engineers minds. They were going full potentiometer from day 1.

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            It's true- it's well known that hall effect sensors are magnetically sensitive and do poorly in handhelds (like the steam deck, ROG ally, or joycons on a docked switch) for that exact reason- they can basically only be used in standalone controllers. More to the point, since the HD rumble is magnetically actuated, there's even more interference than just the main system itself + the connector system. You CAN try to account for that interference, but why would you do that when....

            Hall effect sensors actually have some major downsides- they have poorer centering, increased power draw, the aforementioned magnetic interference issues, the fact they don't actually solve stick drift, and finally and most concerningly- they have a REALLY low poll rate. I was able to notice the difference when playing celeste with a buddy's hall effect controllers, for example.

            More to the point, gulikit is definitely engaging in some corporate double-speak here- the switch 2 joy cons use the same analog stick design.... that basically every game company has used for decades. NOT the same sticks as the switch 1 joycons. They're completely different, Nintendo went back to the 'standard' design instead of the 'short' design that caused the problem in the switch 1.

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