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a harry potter fan's guide to navigating pride month

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  • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV This user is from outside of this forum
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    https://cyberpunk.lol/@vantablack/114609145408193505

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    • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

      https://cyberpunk.lol/@vantablack/114609145408193505

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      says to stop reading the books and watching the movies with the reasoning of giving a bad actor more money but... I already own them all from before it was known she was an asshat. I'm pretty sure she doesn't get money when I pop the DVDs in my player or decide to re-read the books on my shelf.

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      • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

        https://cyberpunk.lol/@vantablack/114609145408193505

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        You don't need to stop doing any of this.

        Just pirate all of it.

        That's what I did.

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        • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

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          Some of the most ludicrous people I used to know are... very queer and proud, self describe as 'leftists', and are also mega Potterheads, all at the same time.

          Everytime I'd mention that Rowling is a POS, I would literally be shushed, and mean mugged.

          Ironically (or perhaps not?) one of these people would later be fired from their job for racial insensitivity.

          ???????

          Cognitive dissonance is really something else.

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          • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

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            Honestly I only got the urge to watch the movies again because people on Lemmy wouldn't shut up about her

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            • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

              You don't need to stop doing any of this.

              Just pirate all of it.

              That's what I did.

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              That's still boosting the cultural impact of her work. In some cases piracy increases total sales.

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              • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                You don't need to stop doing any of this.

                Just pirate all of it.

                That's what I did.

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                Just pirate all of it.

                how can you enjoy it though? like, don't you get disgusted knowing you're consuming the product of a transphobe? fuckin gross

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                • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

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                  I know this is going to generate hate but, I just cant care anymore. She's a genuine POS who won't be missed but its my one single escape from reality. Im far to exhausted trying to tiptoe around everyone who's a POS. I'd say I'll stay at home but my builders were probably a POS too and I gotta go sell my house to make SOMEONE happy. If others wanna get her canceled and by some magic remove everything shes ever done from existence I'll make sure not to get upset but Im done being asked to be a soldier in every battle against a bad person.

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                  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                    Just pirate all of it.

                    how can you enjoy it though? like, don't you get disgusted knowing you're consuming the product of a transphobe? fuckin gross

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                    The old conundrum of separating the art from the artist. Personally, I think as long as you aren't giving them any money, have at it.

                    a painting by a very famous Austrian

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                    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                      The old conundrum of separating the art from the artist. Personally, I think as long as you aren't giving them any money, have at it.

                      a painting by a very famous Austrian

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                      a very famous Austrian

                      schwarzenegger is a famous austrian. your painter there was an infamous shitbag. know the difference!

                      lol love it when hitler fans out themselves

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                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                        says to stop reading the books and watching the movies with the reasoning of giving a bad actor more money but... I already own them all from before it was known she was an asshat. I'm pretty sure she doesn't get money when I pop the DVDs in my player or decide to re-read the books on my shelf.

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                        That it doesn't disgust you to consume the media of an open fascist using her money to attempt a genocide is highly suspect

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                        • bizza@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

                          That it doesn't disgust you to consume the media of an open fascist using her money to attempt a genocide is highly suspect

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                          This may be hard to understand, but many people are totally capable of separating the art from the artist.

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                          • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                            This may be hard to understand, but many people are totally capable of separating the art from the artist.

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                            It is hard to understand, actually. I don't understand how you consume something that's been over for 20 years, that was intended for children, and contains veiled racism and fascist undertones that go right over the head of average people, and still sit here in 2025 going, "I regularly pop Hairy Plopper into my Dee Vee Dee player" like

                            I guess it doesn't matter, though, because now the next time you plop that thing in you're going to think of these posts.

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                              It is hard to understand, actually. I don't understand how you consume something that's been over for 20 years, that was intended for children, and contains veiled racism and fascist undertones that go right over the head of average people, and still sit here in 2025 going, "I regularly pop Hairy Plopper into my Dee Vee Dee player" like

                              I guess it doesn't matter, though, because now the next time you plop that thing in you're going to think of these posts.

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                              contains veiled racism and fascist undertones that go right over the head of average people

                              You got any examples of it promoting these ideas and not not being a negative critique of them? All the examples of bigotry and authoritarianism in the books and films are rightfully portrayed negatively; not something to celebrate.

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                                contains veiled racism and fascist undertones that go right over the head of average people

                                You got any examples of it promoting these ideas and not not being a negative critique of them? All the examples of bigotry and authoritarianism in the books and films are rightfully portrayed negatively; not something to celebrate.

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                                The goblins are Jewish caricatures first and foremost, and most obviously. I thought we as a society knew that most portrayals of goblins have always been antisemitic, but that's aside from every other character in HP being some kind of stereotype metaphor. There's a reason that became a meme, and is still a meme. i.e., stuff like, "JK has announced that her newest character, John Gayman, is a gay man!" for a rough example.

                                I don't particularly agree with every single thing listed here, but these are some more examples to mull over: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/kaxw28/i_made_a_list_of_examples_of_racism_prejudice_and/

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                                  I know this is going to generate hate but, I just cant care anymore. She's a genuine POS who won't be missed but its my one single escape from reality. Im far to exhausted trying to tiptoe around everyone who's a POS. I'd say I'll stay at home but my builders were probably a POS too and I gotta go sell my house to make SOMEONE happy. If others wanna get her canceled and by some magic remove everything shes ever done from existence I'll make sure not to get upset but Im done being asked to be a soldier in every battle against a bad person.

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                                  I understand the sentiment. But then I'd say: buy used media.

                                  As long as she doesn't get any money

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                                    I think all the attention yโ€™all give to her is whatโ€™s keeping this in the cultural spotlight. I basically never think about her, or the books, until I see posts like these on the internet. We gotta separate the art from the artist.

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                                      I think these hard line stances do more harm than good.

                                      My wife and I are active in not supporting any new things, but to talk about how you think it's morally wrong to even talk about the franchise is going to alienate a ton of people.

                                      I feel fine talking about it, and the memories I had with it. Because everyone I surround myself with is completely aligned that Harry Potter was meaningful when we were kids and also JK Rowling is a complete fucking asshat.

                                      This sort of purity testing has got to stop. If mentioning the name of Harry Potter marks someone as a transphobe who is equally as bad as politicians actively stripping them of their rights... The movement will never build a coalition.

                                      Saying that financially supporting JK Rowling is actively harming the trans community is a reasonable argument. Saying that talking about Harry Potter, even if you note that JK Rowling sucks, makes you an outright transphobe is not reasonable to me.

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                                        I think these hard line stances do more harm than good.

                                        My wife and I are active in not supporting any new things, but to talk about how you think it's morally wrong to even talk about the franchise is going to alienate a ton of people.

                                        I feel fine talking about it, and the memories I had with it. Because everyone I surround myself with is completely aligned that Harry Potter was meaningful when we were kids and also JK Rowling is a complete fucking asshat.

                                        This sort of purity testing has got to stop. If mentioning the name of Harry Potter marks someone as a transphobe who is equally as bad as politicians actively stripping them of their rights... The movement will never build a coalition.

                                        Saying that financially supporting JK Rowling is actively harming the trans community is a reasonable argument. Saying that talking about Harry Potter, even if you note that JK Rowling sucks, makes you an outright transphobe is not reasonable to me.

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                                        it does seem extremist as a perspective, but that extremist might think talking about the franchise is akin to marketing or a more passive or subtle way of the franchise receiving funding.

                                        Probably a better argument is that JK Rowling is not as influential as some anti-trans activists, and our behavior and norms should ideally be rational and reflect those priorities.

                                        I agree with you that coalition building is important, and in this particular case probably more important to trans rights than strict adherence to rules like never speaking of Harry Potter.

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                                          You don't need to stop doing any of this.

                                          Just pirate all of it.

                                          That's what I did.

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                                          I would agree, but the wizard game where the good guys put down a slave uprising isnt just antisemitic and transphobic, even worse, its mid.

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