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  • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

    Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

    Ai is literally making people dumber:

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

    https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

    They are a massive privacy risk:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s

    https://theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-data-about-you-from-all-your-devices-heres-how-to-be-aware-of-what-youre-revealing-251693

    Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

    https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

    And they are a massive environmental disaster:

    https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/

    Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

    Edit: thank you to every Ai apologist outing themselves in the comments. Thank you for making blocking you easy.

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    Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

    With the number of times that refrain is regurgitated here ad nauseum, need is an odd way to put it.
    Sick of it might fit sentiments better.
    Done with this & not giving a shit is another.

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      Good lord stop comparing LLMs to airplanes in your replies. This is why you think "AI bad" is an unserious statement.

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      Did an airplane touch you the wrong way?

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        AI BAD, TRUMP BAD, CLIMATE CHANGE BAD, GENOCIDE BAD, CAPITALISM BAD, LIBERALS BAD, FASCISTS BAD, NAZIS BAD, INCELS BAD, CEOs BAD, LANDLORDS BAD, VIOLENCE BAD, CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING BAD.

        Now where are my upvotes?

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          AI is an umbrella term that holds many thing. We have been referring to simple path finding algorithms in video games as AI for two decades, llms are AIs.

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          Yes LLMs are AI, who don't agree with this is stupid, sorry. But saying AI means LLM is wrong. Kindly take a look on my reason here why I always against to language misusage https://infosec.pub/comment/17417999. You English speakers sometimes make things harder to understand by misusing terms like 'literally' or using 'AI' to mean only LLMs. Language is meant to clarify, not confuse, and this shift in meaning can lead to misunderstandings, especially when talking about technical concepts.

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            There is a distinction between video game AI and computer science AI. People know that video game AI isn't really AI. How LLM is marketed by using terms like "super intelligence" is deception.

            No one is typing prompts out to NPC asking if dogs can eat chocolate.

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            Calling an llm an AI isnt saying it's super intelligent and I don't know of any company that it is marketing it like that. There aren't multiple definitions of AI depending on the industry you are in.

            Just read the wiki, it is pretty clear. Something does not have to be "intelligent" to be considered AI, just like a shooting star isn't actually a star. Its an umbrella term that holds many things including video game pathfinding, llms, recommendation systems, autonomous driving solutions, etc.

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            • occultist8128@infosec.pubO [email protected]

              Yes LLMs are AI, who don't agree with this is stupid, sorry. But saying AI means LLM is wrong. Kindly take a look on my reason here why I always against to language misusage https://infosec.pub/comment/17417999. You English speakers sometimes make things harder to understand by misusing terms like 'literally' or using 'AI' to mean only LLMs. Language is meant to clarify, not confuse, and this shift in meaning can lead to misunderstandings, especially when talking about technical concepts.

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              Ya I agree, it is a bit problematic.

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              • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

                Ai is literally making people dumber:

                https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

                https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

                They are a massive privacy risk:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s

                https://theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-data-about-you-from-all-your-devices-heres-how-to-be-aware-of-what-youre-revealing-251693

                Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

                https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

                And they are a massive environmental disaster:

                https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

                https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/

                Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

                Edit: thank you to every Ai apologist outing themselves in the comments. Thank you for making blocking you easy.

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                If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you're a hypocrite.

                Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

                There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It's barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things

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                  It feels like the author of the post thinks superficially and doesn’t delve into the essence. Although, considering that killing children can also be funny, I don't even know what to laugh at and what to cry about. It's hard to understand someone else's humor sometimes.

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                    Yes, any further questions?

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                      GenAI is a bad tool that does bad things in bad ways.

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                      GenAI is a great tool for devouring text and making practice questions, study guides and summarize, it has been used as a marvelous tool for education and research. Hell, if set properly, you can get it to give you the references and markers on your original data for where to find the answers to the questions on the study guide it made you.

                      It is also really good for translation and simplification of complex text. It has its uses.

                      But the oversimplification and massive broad specs LLMs have taken, plus lack of proper training for the users, are part of the problem Capitalism is capitalizing on. They don't care for the consumer's best interest, they just care for a few extra pennies, even if those are coated in the blood of the innocent. But a lot of people just foam at the mouth when they hear "Ai".

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                      • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                        Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

                        Ai is literally making people dumber:

                        https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

                        https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

                        They are a massive privacy risk:

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s

                        https://theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-data-about-you-from-all-your-devices-heres-how-to-be-aware-of-what-youre-revealing-251693

                        Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

                        https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

                        And they are a massive environmental disaster:

                        https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/

                        Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

                        Edit: thank you to every Ai apologist outing themselves in the comments. Thank you for making blocking you easy.

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                        This can be called not a technology, but a weapon for killing in my opinion.

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                        • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                          If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you're a hypocrite.

                          Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

                          There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It's barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things

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                          Hypocrisy can be called the primitive nature of man who chooses what is easier because he is designed that way. Human is like a cancerous tumor for the planet.

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                          • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you're a hypocrite.

                            Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

                            There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It's barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things

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                            Ahh so are you going to acknowledge the privacy invasion and brain rotting cause by Ai or are you just going to focus on dismissing the environmental concerns? Cause I linked more than just the environmental impacts.

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                            • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              The problem isn't AI. The problem is Capitalism.

                              The problem is always Capitalism.

                              AI, Climate Change, rising fascism, all our problems are because of capitalism.

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                              Rather, our problem is that we live in a world where the strongest will survive, and the strongest does not mean the smart... So alas we will always be in complete shit until we disappear.

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                                I don't hate the concept as is, I hate how it is being marketed and shoved everywhere and into everything by sheer hype and the need for returns on the absurd amounts of money that were thrown at it.

                                Companies use it to justify layoffs, create cheap vibed up products, delegate responsibilities to an absolutely not sentient or intelligent computer program. Not even mentioning the colossal amount of natural and financial resources being thrown down this drain.

                                I read a great summary yesterday somewhere on here that essentially said "they took a type of computer model made to give answers to very specific questions it has been trained on, and then trained it on everything to make a generalist". Except that doesn't work, the broader the spectrum the model is covering the less accurate it will be.

                                Identifying skin cancer? Perfect tool for the job.

                                Giving drones the go ahead on an ambiguous target? Providing psychological care to people in distress? FUCK NO.

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                                And here the question is: should we laugh out of despair or just cry?

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                                  I used that comparison a total of two times (and might use it more), how about refute my argument instead of getting mad at me for using a good comparison twice.

                                  Airplanes emit SHITLOADS of carbon into the atmosphere, they have directly caused the death of tens of thousands of people. Airplanes are heavily used in war and to spy on people. Airplanes are literally used to spray pesticides and other chemicals into the air etc.
                                  They can mostly just be used by the rich etc.

                                  Just like with AI, there are many reasons airplanes are bad, that doesn't mean we should get rid of them.

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                                  A based point of view, Bravo, my dear. Do you know how rare that is? People in here love to think about themselves as free thinkers, when a lot of them are in reality, reactionary at best.

                                  Same for citing renting, landlords and Ai. They are disgustingly evil when used for profit, but they also have their uses. In another comment I'm sure will be downvoted to hell, if not outright buried, I mention the uses of GenAI for translation, text simplification, summarization and studying, yet people got the whole "AI=BAD" as a thought-terminating cliche.

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                                    GenAI is a bad tool that does bad things in bad ways.

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                                    then you have little understanding of how genai works… the social impact of genai is horrific, but to argue the tool is wholly bad conveys a complete or purposeful misunderstanding of context

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                                      Guns don’t kill people. People with guns kill people.

                                      Ftfy

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                                      as an aussie, yeah, then you should stop people from having guns

                                      i honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the total number of gun deaths in australia since we banned guns (1996) was less than the number of gun deaths in the US THIS WEEK

                                      the reason is irrelevant: the cause is obvious… and id have bought the “to stop a tyrannical government” argument a few years ago, but ffs there’s all the kids dying in school and none of the stop the tyrant, so maybe that’s a fucking awful argument and we have it right down under

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                                        I personally think of AI as a tool, what matters is how you use it. I like to think of it like a hammer. You could use a hammer to build a house, or you could smash someone's skull in with it. But no one's putting the hammer in jail.

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                                        A hammer doesn't consume exorbitant amounts of power and water.

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                                          Calling an llm an AI isnt saying it's super intelligent and I don't know of any company that it is marketing it like that. There aren't multiple definitions of AI depending on the industry you are in.

                                          Just read the wiki, it is pretty clear. Something does not have to be "intelligent" to be considered AI, just like a shooting star isn't actually a star. Its an umbrella term that holds many things including video game pathfinding, llms, recommendation systems, autonomous driving solutions, etc.

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                                          Calling an llm an AI isnt saying it’s super intelligent and I don’t know of any company that it is marketing it like that.

                                          Meta: Personal Superintelligence

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