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    Yes, any further questions?

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      GenAI is a bad tool that does bad things in bad ways.

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      GenAI is a great tool for devouring text and making practice questions, study guides and summarize, it has been used as a marvelous tool for education and research. Hell, if set properly, you can get it to give you the references and markers on your original data for where to find the answers to the questions on the study guide it made you.

      It is also really good for translation and simplification of complex text. It has its uses.

      But the oversimplification and massive broad specs LLMs have taken, plus lack of proper training for the users, are part of the problem Capitalism is capitalizing on. They don't care for the consumer's best interest, they just care for a few extra pennies, even if those are coated in the blood of the innocent. But a lot of people just foam at the mouth when they hear "Ai".

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      • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

        Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

        Ai is literally making people dumber:

        https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

        https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

        They are a massive privacy risk:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s

        https://theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-data-about-you-from-all-your-devices-heres-how-to-be-aware-of-what-youre-revealing-251693

        Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

        https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

        And they are a massive environmental disaster:

        https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/

        Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

        Edit: thank you to every Ai apologist outing themselves in the comments. Thank you for making blocking you easy.

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        This can be called not a technology, but a weapon for killing in my opinion.

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        • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you're a hypocrite.

          Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

          There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It's barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things

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          Hypocrisy can be called the primitive nature of man who chooses what is easier because he is designed that way. Human is like a cancerous tumor for the planet.

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          • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

            If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you're a hypocrite.

            Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

            There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It's barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things

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            Ahh so are you going to acknowledge the privacy invasion and brain rotting cause by Ai or are you just going to focus on dismissing the environmental concerns? Cause I linked more than just the environmental impacts.

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            • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

              The problem isn't AI. The problem is Capitalism.

              The problem is always Capitalism.

              AI, Climate Change, rising fascism, all our problems are because of capitalism.

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              Rather, our problem is that we live in a world where the strongest will survive, and the strongest does not mean the smart... So alas we will always be in complete shit until we disappear.

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                I don't hate the concept as is, I hate how it is being marketed and shoved everywhere and into everything by sheer hype and the need for returns on the absurd amounts of money that were thrown at it.

                Companies use it to justify layoffs, create cheap vibed up products, delegate responsibilities to an absolutely not sentient or intelligent computer program. Not even mentioning the colossal amount of natural and financial resources being thrown down this drain.

                I read a great summary yesterday somewhere on here that essentially said "they took a type of computer model made to give answers to very specific questions it has been trained on, and then trained it on everything to make a generalist". Except that doesn't work, the broader the spectrum the model is covering the less accurate it will be.

                Identifying skin cancer? Perfect tool for the job.

                Giving drones the go ahead on an ambiguous target? Providing psychological care to people in distress? FUCK NO.

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                And here the question is: should we laugh out of despair or just cry?

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                • E [email protected]

                  I used that comparison a total of two times (and might use it more), how about refute my argument instead of getting mad at me for using a good comparison twice.

                  Airplanes emit SHITLOADS of carbon into the atmosphere, they have directly caused the death of tens of thousands of people. Airplanes are heavily used in war and to spy on people. Airplanes are literally used to spray pesticides and other chemicals into the air etc.
                  They can mostly just be used by the rich etc.

                  Just like with AI, there are many reasons airplanes are bad, that doesn't mean we should get rid of them.

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                  A based point of view, Bravo, my dear. Do you know how rare that is? People in here love to think about themselves as free thinkers, when a lot of them are in reality, reactionary at best.

                  Same for citing renting, landlords and Ai. They are disgustingly evil when used for profit, but they also have their uses. In another comment I'm sure will be downvoted to hell, if not outright buried, I mention the uses of GenAI for translation, text simplification, summarization and studying, yet people got the whole "AI=BAD" as a thought-terminating cliche.

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                    GenAI is a bad tool that does bad things in bad ways.

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                    then you have little understanding of how genai works… the social impact of genai is horrific, but to argue the tool is wholly bad conveys a complete or purposeful misunderstanding of context

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                      Guns don’t kill people. People with guns kill people.

                      Ftfy

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                      as an aussie, yeah, then you should stop people from having guns

                      i honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the total number of gun deaths in australia since we banned guns (1996) was less than the number of gun deaths in the US THIS WEEK

                      the reason is irrelevant: the cause is obvious… and id have bought the “to stop a tyrannical government” argument a few years ago, but ffs there’s all the kids dying in school and none of the stop the tyrant, so maybe that’s a fucking awful argument and we have it right down under

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                        I personally think of AI as a tool, what matters is how you use it. I like to think of it like a hammer. You could use a hammer to build a house, or you could smash someone's skull in with it. But no one's putting the hammer in jail.

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                        A hammer doesn't consume exorbitant amounts of power and water.

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                          Calling an llm an AI isnt saying it's super intelligent and I don't know of any company that it is marketing it like that. There aren't multiple definitions of AI depending on the industry you are in.

                          Just read the wiki, it is pretty clear. Something does not have to be "intelligent" to be considered AI, just like a shooting star isn't actually a star. Its an umbrella term that holds many things including video game pathfinding, llms, recommendation systems, autonomous driving solutions, etc.

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                          Calling an llm an AI isnt saying it’s super intelligent and I don’t know of any company that it is marketing it like that.

                          Meta: Personal Superintelligence

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                            AI is exactly as bad as mechanised weaving looms.

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                            You mean it’s going to outsource the labour to children in third world countries?

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                              My skull-crushing hammer that is made to crush skulls and nothing else doesn't crush skulls, people crush skulls
                              In fact, if more people had skull-crushing hammers in their homes, i'm sure that would lead to a reduction in the number of skull-crushings, the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a skull-crushing hammer, is a good guy with a skull-crushing hammer

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                              you’re absolutely right!

                              the ban on guns in australia has been disastrous! the number of good guys with guns has dropped dramatically and … well, so has the number of bad guys … but that’s a mirage! ignore our near 0 gun deaths… that’s a statistical anomaly!

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                                AI is exactly as bad as mechanised weaving looms.

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                                i’m pro-AI (with huuuuge caveats) but i disagree with this… AI reduces certain jobs in a similar way, but it also enables large scale manipulation and fucks with our thought processes on a large scale

                                i’d say it’s like if a mechanised weaving loom also invented the concept of disinformation and propaganda

                                .. but also, mechanised weaving loom effected a single industry: modern ML has the potential to effect the large majority of people: it’s on a different scale than the disruption of the textile industry

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                                  Rather, our problem is that we live in a world where the strongest will survive, and the strongest does not mean the smart... So alas we will always be in complete shit until we disappear.

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                                  That's a pathetic, defeatist world view. Yeah, we're victims of our circumstances, but we can make the world a better place than what we were raised in.

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                                    I’m sure AI would be great if we actually had it. LLMs are not AI.

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                                      You'd also get a ton of upvotes for saying "Trump bad", but you wouldn't be wrong. Shit is just shit.

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                                      It would still be a performative post though.

                                      What we need is a circlejerk@ community

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                                        This same “automatic BS” is helping discover life-saving drugs, diagnosing cancers earlier than some doctors

                                        Not the same kind of AI. At all. Generative AI vendors love this motte-and-bailey.

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                                        That's not a motte-and-bailey.

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                                          That's a pathetic, defeatist world view. Yeah, we're victims of our circumstances, but we can make the world a better place than what we were raised in.

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                                          Well, you can believe that there is a chance, but there is none. It can only be created with sweat and blood. There are no easy ways, you know, and sometimes there are none at all, and sometimes even creating one seems like a miracle.

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