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      Are they Nazis or something as well? Or is this some kind of joke?

      I'm vegan btw

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        Are they Nazis or something as well? Or is this some kind of joke?

        I'm vegan btw

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        Vegetarism/veganism and National Socialism have in Germany (at least to some point) shared cultural roots.

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          Vegetarism/veganism and National Socialism have in Germany (at least to some point) shared cultural roots.

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          Can you substantiate your claims with some factual resources? Much appreciated.

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            Can you substantiate your claims with some factual resources? Much appreciated.

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            Naturalism
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism
            and Bilogism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_determinism
            were a relevent movement in Germany in the late 19th and early 20th centuary.
            And for parts of the "Lebensreform" Bewegung
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensreform
            it was en vogue to be vegetarian or vegan.
            It was not a totally fascist movement, but some members were hard core racist and ableistic.
            The NSDAP claimed some of their values, and formed it into their own propaganda.
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            • Fkk into nazi body cult a la Leni Riefenstahl
            • Healthy, natural lifestyle in general into an arian, healthy lifestyle for a society ready to fight
            • esoteric views into their own arian pseudo-religion

            So as part of this, hitler was a propagandizing vegetarian. And Hitler and other leading nazis were some kind of "animal rights activist"
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

            Some of this values are deeply printed into the NSDAP and are so part of today Nazis in Germany. "Nazi-Hippies" (as people in my bubble are caling them), are still a thing here.

            As far as i remeber, the German Green Party had in the founding times problems with Nazis in the party.

            If you want better sources, i can only give you german Documentaries from arte or dlf. Im just an interessted dude and not a historian or teacher. Im not prepared to present sources in English 🙂

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              Naturalism
              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism
              and Bilogism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_determinism
              were a relevent movement in Germany in the late 19th and early 20th centuary.
              And for parts of the "Lebensreform" Bewegung
              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensreform
              it was en vogue to be vegetarian or vegan.
              It was not a totally fascist movement, but some members were hard core racist and ableistic.
              The NSDAP claimed some of their values, and formed it into their own propaganda.
              FE:

              • Fkk into nazi body cult a la Leni Riefenstahl
              • Healthy, natural lifestyle in general into an arian, healthy lifestyle for a society ready to fight
              • esoteric views into their own arian pseudo-religion

              So as part of this, hitler was a propagandizing vegetarian. And Hitler and other leading nazis were some kind of "animal rights activist"
              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

              Some of this values are deeply printed into the NSDAP and are so part of today Nazis in Germany. "Nazi-Hippies" (as people in my bubble are caling them), are still a thing here.

              As far as i remeber, the German Green Party had in the founding times problems with Nazis in the party.

              If you want better sources, i can only give you german Documentaries from arte or dlf. Im just an interessted dude and not a historian or teacher. Im not prepared to present sources in English 🙂

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              Thank you and interesting information. This is partially in line sith what I can find. But there are some serious identifiable concerns. Although I am fairly confident that it has been debunked that Hitler was even a true vegetarian, let alone a long time one. It seems to have been a combination of multiple factors from what I can find. He was just a very picky eater, a well thought out Arian PR strategy around his abstenance from meat, alcohol and tobacco, food sensitivities and having a sweet tooth.

              Not all perfect sources, but enough to question the validity of his vegetarian status in my opinion.

              https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism?hl=en-US#%3A~%3Atext=In+1938%2C+Hitler's+doctors+recommended%2Cwere+meatless+during+this+period.

              https://slate.com/human-interest/2004/02/was-hitler-a-vegetarian.html?hl=en-US#%3A~%3Atext=Berry+asserts+that+propaganda+chief%2Cabove+all+to+his+people.

              https://www.all-creatures.org/mfz/myths-hitler-rk.html?hl=en-US#%3A~%3Atext=Tolischus+in+1937+in+The%2Cchocolates."+(Ibid.)

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                Thank you and interesting information. This is partially in line sith what I can find. But there are some serious identifiable concerns. Although I am fairly confident that it has been debunked that Hitler was even a true vegetarian, let alone a long time one. It seems to have been a combination of multiple factors from what I can find. He was just a very picky eater, a well thought out Arian PR strategy around his abstenance from meat, alcohol and tobacco, food sensitivities and having a sweet tooth.

                Not all perfect sources, but enough to question the validity of his vegetarian status in my opinion.

                https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism?hl=en-US#%3A~%3Atext=In+1938%2C+Hitler's+doctors+recommended%2Cwere+meatless+during+this+period.

                https://slate.com/human-interest/2004/02/was-hitler-a-vegetarian.html?hl=en-US#%3A~%3Atext=Berry+asserts+that+propaganda+chief%2Cabove+all+to+his+people.

                https://www.all-creatures.org/mfz/myths-hitler-rk.html?hl=en-US#%3A~%3Atext=Tolischus+in+1937+in+The%2Cchocolates."+(Ibid.)

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                "Propagandizing Vegetarian", it doesent really matter if he really was one, imho
                And it would surprise me much, if it was just a show. Like much else of his publicly known "life"

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