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    improved how we recognize and diagnose it.

    Well, we at least have changed how we recognize and diagnose it, I'm not totally convinced it's 100% an "improvement". We've kind of jumbled up a whole bunch of people under a common umbrella and diluted the implications of the term, to the point where it tells you negligible practical information when someone is described as "autistic" or "on the spectrum".

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    Yeah, that's a totally fair concern and is one of the points the episode addresses. Researchers acknowledged that the definition has broadened, but they also emphasized that it reflects a better understanding of autism as a spectrum. It does make the label less specific, but it's also helped a lot of people. Especially women and people of color. It helped them get more accurate diagnoses instead of being misdiagnosed or ignored.

    Overall, it's a stat worth celebrating as it means more people are getting the support they needed all along.

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      I remember having a discussion woth someone many years ago who vehemently insisted that mental illness didn't exist until the late 1900s and that nobody were mentally ill nor dealing with disorders before psychology was invented. His conclusion was that mental illness and disorders were made up by psychologists to make money off of people.

      Some levels of stupid are so severe that you just can't do anything but sit and stare in disbelief after awhile.

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        Yeah, that's a totally fair concern and is one of the points the episode addresses. Researchers acknowledged that the definition has broadened, but they also emphasized that it reflects a better understanding of autism as a spectrum. It does make the label less specific, but it's also helped a lot of people. Especially women and people of color. It helped them get more accurate diagnoses instead of being misdiagnosed or ignored.

        Overall, it's a stat worth celebrating as it means more people are getting the support they needed all along.

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        I hope that's the net result, just afraid that so many others will be dismissive of someone asserting autism, particularly with certain folks seeming to think being autistic is a license to be inconsiderate while claiming it also means you are smart and so is worth declaring a self-diagnosis.

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          I remember having a discussion woth someone many years ago who vehemently insisted that mental illness didn't exist until the late 1900s and that nobody were mentally ill nor dealing with disorders before psychology was invented. His conclusion was that mental illness and disorders were made up by psychologists to make money off of people.

          Some levels of stupid are so severe that you just can't do anything but sit and stare in disbelief after awhile.

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          Did he not ever read about the Romans or any other country with a monarchy

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            Do we know if autism is genetic? Otherwise the question is not entirely wrong. There could be a cultural influence that we should figure out.

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            Autism is almost certainly genetic. It's prevalent at such a young age, seen in similar proportions across many different social groups and nations.

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              I hope that's the net result, just afraid that so many others will be dismissive of someone asserting autism, particularly with certain folks seeming to think being autistic is a license to be inconsiderate while claiming it also means you are smart and so is worth declaring a self-diagnosis.

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              There are a few dirks like Elon Musk and Richard Dawkins but I don't think the average person is aware enough of these people to really care

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                "Probably"? Can someone point me in the direction of something slightly more conclusive? Cuz it could be that.. but I could totally also believe that it's chemicals and shit in our food and environment.

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                  Whether autism is genetic is not related to the question at all. More people are diagnosed with autism because we have better tests now than before and we test more kids.

                  And finally we also broadened what is considered autism.

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                  Whether autism is genetic is not related to the question at all.

                  How do you know? It can be both.

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                    Everytime a magat brings this up I always hit them with the counter conspiracy that it’s the microplastics

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                    • bamboodpanda@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                      The Science Vs. podcast just did an episode on this.

                      https://open.spotify.com/episode/2eKgmLJZrEKTbVzCVYzp0u

                      Spoiler: It's exactly as the meme describes. Autism rates are rising not because more people are becoming autistic, but because we’ve expanded the definition and improved how we recognize and diagnose it.

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                      it's like how my government narrows down the definition of who's considered under poverty, then they celebrates that they now have less population under poverty. the exact moment when the last 5 years economy is getting worse.

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