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Is the number of Lemmy users increasing?

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  • G [email protected]

    less funding plus more features isn't selling it. just means it's not maintainable long term.

    besides my ick is more from the user base not the software. any if the piefed users I've ran across are trying to hard sell piefed. I don't like car salesmen, so it just gives me the ick.

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    #93

    less funding plus more features isn't selling it. just means it's not maintainable long term.

    All the other instances survive across the Fediverse on less funding.

    besides my ick is more from the user base not the software. any if the piefed users I've ran across are trying to hard sell piefed. I don't like car salesmen, so it just gives me the ick.

    It's quite advanced in comparison to Lemmy in many ways, regardless of what you think of how people try to sell it.

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      like ml is the same user base?

      edit: or maybe hexbear?

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      Piefeds users don't tend to be tankies or campists, and Piefed.social itself is defederated from Hexbear and Lemmygrad.

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      • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

        Instances like quokk.au just went nuclear and recreated their instances with Piefed when keeping the domain name.

        Does that even work? Wouldn't that kinda break federation?

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        It worked 99.99%, the only issue was PieFed doesn't allow capitals in community names which meant one community broke as the name didn't match after being made lowercase.

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        • reverendender@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

          Ok I’ll bite. What are some good piefed instances to consider?

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          #96
          • https://quokk.au

          I like it because it's a lowkey anarchist server. Administration isn't as overbearing as some places, and you have a lot of freedom to do what you want. It's been active for 2 years and I know it's funded for another 2 at least. Plus smaller servers help spread the load (and hopefully load faster for you).

          There's also anarchist.nexus, but they're not open for registration.

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          • lumidaub@feddit.orgL [email protected]

            That email comparison annoys the fuck out of me. How is any of this like email?

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            #97
            1. Domain + Username
            2. email is also very flawed (think spam, and spoofing, etc)
            3. its federated
            4. people usually just pick one of the big platforms, but there are other options.
            5. email servers get banned from interoperating with the network all the time

            The comparisons could go on. I’m sure there are contrasts too. But email is a point of reference most people know about. Unless they don’t have an email address. I guess.

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            • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]
              • https://quokk.au

              I like it because it's a lowkey anarchist server. Administration isn't as overbearing as some places, and you have a lot of freedom to do what you want. It's been active for 2 years and I know it's funded for another 2 at least. Plus smaller servers help spread the load (and hopefully load faster for you).

              There's also anarchist.nexus, but they're not open for registration.

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              #98

              What level of anarchy are we talking here? (You and I tend to differ on some (not all) of our politics 😉)

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              • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                People post and comment from other platforms like Piefed

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                #99

                The posts and comments listed there are locally hosted total values (not per month)

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                • S [email protected]

                  Interesting that user counts are lower, but posts and comments are still going up. Hopefully, that doesn't mean more bot activity 😧

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                  #100

                  The graphs there for posts and comments are for count of posts on lemmy directly, total, not per month. The posts/month seems stagnant, although its hard to tell as the data shown there is burried by a couple of bot instances that completely hide the overall trend.

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                  • reverendender@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

                    What level of anarchy are we talking here? (You and I tend to differ on some (not all) of our politics 😉)

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                    A lowkey level 😛 The admin is a lot less extreme than myself, and pretty accepting for most things outside of hate content.

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                    • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]
                      1. Domain + Username
                      2. email is also very flawed (think spam, and spoofing, etc)
                      3. its federated
                      4. people usually just pick one of the big platforms, but there are other options.
                      5. email servers get banned from interoperating with the network all the time

                      The comparisons could go on. I’m sure there are contrasts too. But email is a point of reference most people know about. Unless they don’t have an email address. I guess.

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                      #102

                      And you think the average user thinks of ANY of this when they're using Lemmy for the first time so they must conclude "oh it's just like email"? This has absolutely nothing to do with using the platform.

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                      • lumidaub@feddit.orgL [email protected]

                        And you think the average user thinks of ANY of this when they're using Lemmy for the first time so they must conclude "oh it's just like email"? This has absolutely nothing to do with using the platform.

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                        #103

                        I answered your question about the similarities man. Settle down. You asked any and I gave you it. You didn’t ask for how it’s exactly like email.

                        Also, I think tech nerds tend to look down on others in this topic. “It’s too difficult, it’s too much to learn.” —- and thus it won’t be profitable? What are we worried about?

                        Activity pub and related networks didn’t just shrivel up and die right away due to this problem. I’m arguing with a stranger on the internet via a newer activity pub platform, in fact.

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                        • D [email protected]

                          In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.

                          My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.

                          Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content 😢?)

                          But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.

                          However... I'm just curious.

                          Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?

                          Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!

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                          #104

                          From what I've seen, no - the number of people actually regularly on here is going down, as I'm just seeing the same people more and more. When I use voyager you can see when your personal upvote/downvote score for every user on every one of their posts, and I'm mostly seeing people with a != 0 score, meaning I've interacted with their comments before. Means I'm not frequently seeing new people.

                          People like me who came here to escape the reddit bullshit of authoritarian power hungry mods and admins, insane censorship of anything right of "far left", and reinforcements of echo chambers through moderation, quickly found out that, if anything, Lemmy is already worse in some regards than reddit.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            From what I've seen, no - the number of people actually regularly on here is going down, as I'm just seeing the same people more and more. When I use voyager you can see when your personal upvote/downvote score for every user on every one of their posts, and I'm mostly seeing people with a != 0 score, meaning I've interacted with their comments before. Means I'm not frequently seeing new people.

                            People like me who came here to escape the reddit bullshit of authoritarian power hungry mods and admins, insane censorship of anything right of "far left", and reinforcements of echo chambers through moderation, quickly found out that, if anything, Lemmy is already worse in some regards than reddit.

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                            #105

                            It's definitely worse. I have only stayed because it isn't corporate bullshit. It's still shit though.

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                            • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                              https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats

                              Currently trending down. And it's all your fault for taking a break. 😔

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                              #106

                              Replying to this to make the line go up

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                              • D [email protected]

                                It's definitely worse. I have only stayed because it isn't corporate bullshit. It's still shit though.

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                                #107

                                Yeah I'm only still here because it's something that still can have some decent conversations sometimes, and hey I'm always down for a good debate/argument with people of differing opinions. It's definitely not going to grow to any great heights without massive changes across the board though.

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  Piefeds users don't tend to be tankies or campists, and Piefed.social itself is defederated from Hexbear and Lemmygrad.

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                                  #108

                                  you missed my whole point.

                                  lemmy instances cultivate their own user base. piefed is no different. so not as they said, "the same user base".

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                                  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                    https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats

                                    Currently trending down. And it's all your fault for taking a break. 😔

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                                    #109

                                    Probably will bump back up in September

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      Reddit is written in Python. It was originally written is Common Lisp, but they rewrote it in Python since it is easier to find developers.

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                                      Damn! How inefficient 🤪 but that explains a lot

                                      Python dev tend to vibe code while C (and other similar programming language) devs tend to plan more prior coding.

                                      As a decision maker, I would let my devs only use python for proof of concepts or for build scripts..

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.

                                        My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.

                                        Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content 😢?)

                                        But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.

                                        However... I'm just curious.

                                        Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?

                                        Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!

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                                        Its been at a pretty consistent 50k which means we retained 25% of the users from our peak. Its 37.5k at the moment with 1.8k on piefed. There is another 18k users once NodeBB federations integrates.

                                        Its a decent little community, enough to be self sufficient and enough for new users to feel like they arent joining a ghost town.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          Yep and its pretty easy to read when looking at the source code.

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                                          #112

                                          C is easy as well.. For me, even more easy than python, as I read like 100x more C++ rather than python..

                                          I don’t even bother to write python anymore 🤣 I let it generate by AI nowadays

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